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Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by hnnmzh »

AFascistWorld wrote: post #32
axaxs wrote: post #25

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I'm not anti Samsung, and having used Xiaomi, definitely not pro for them. That said, it's hard to deny the value they offer. In the premium market, Huawei is lapping them. Samsung used to vie for best camera. Now they're with Apple in lagging far behind the Pixel and P series.

Like I said, Huawei is great at marketing at least in China, their patriotism marketing has been so successful there. >In the premium market, Huawei is lapping them Where? In China? My personal opinion is when you dive deep, Huawei is more about marketing hype than substance. The tri-camera is Israel tech, they rely on Samsung for memory chip and OLED, things like their battery life achieved by furiously killing back…

"The tri-camera is Israel tech, they rely on Samsung for memory chip and OLED"

So what? Apple didn't make their own camera sensors. Apple didn't make their memory chips. Apple used Samsung's OLED too. And iPhones are great products.

Of course, you can argue Huawei's software is lagging behind Apple, but where is Samsung standing?

Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by hnnmzh »

AFascistWorld wrote: post #81
tanilama wrote: post #70

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> their patriotism marketing has been so successful there If your goes to r/Android, Huawei is at least as popular as Samsung, and even more of a topic maker. And that has been the case for sometime now. I have a Samsung S10E, but that is because I can't own a Huawei in US, for there is no customer support here. TBH, S10 is the best phone Samsung has made in THREE years and I am quite happy with it. The past gens of…

"Best" is subjective, r/Android might make you feel it's a big comunity, everyone should buy Android instead of Apple to avoid "being ripped-off" and not buying the best specs is stupid; but you should realize it's really just geek hobbists. I used to be one of them, constantly tweaking it, ROMs, root and flash, compile my own ROM, compare specs and eager to know what's new, but that's long ago, I've quit being a sla…

"r/Android might make you feel it's a big comunity"

Give you another example. I'm on the market for a new phone. I went to a local shop to get a feel of the latest offerings. While I was there, three groups of friends/couple/mother-and-son came to the shop and they all talked about Huawei. This is not in China btw.

Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by Retric »

cronix wrote: post #108
Retric wrote: post #95

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CPU is far more relevant if you want to keep your phone for 4+ years. The 2 year upgrade cycle on a smartphone is a major expense for many people.

Not sure how my 4 year old Galaxy S6 still chugs along as fast as the day I got it. I'll purchase a new battery before getting a new phone (still on the original, which still makes it through the day on a charge). I'm pretty sure I could easily get another 4 years out of this. CPU and RAM are not an issue. I don't need or want AR or gimmicks that don't actually add value or productivity. Just a tool. My email and tex…

That was a high end phone when you bought it. Samsung still sells the S6 and the people buying it today have less headroom to keep it 8 years.

Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by collyw »

kurtisc wrote: post #99
collyw wrote: post #96

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A lot of people get phones as part of a contract (here in Europe at least), and that's usually a year and a half or two years. After that you might as well take the phone upgrade.

Keeping the phone and going SIM-only is much cheaper

Sue that's why I do but I think I am in a minority with that.

Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by collyw »

pjmlp wrote: post #107
collyw wrote: post #96

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A lot of people get phones as part of a contract (here in Europe at least), and that's usually a year and a half or two years. After that you might as well take the phone upgrade.

Except that most Europeans actually go for pre-paid phones, unless they are really into iPhones and Samsung S devices.

Have you got any stats to back that claim up?

When I tried to get internet here in Spain a few years ago, I asked Vodafone how much it cost. 40 Euros per month (then add on tax). I asked how much it was for a bundle with internet a phone and a mobile contract. Same price.

I do see younger people with a lot of lat generation iPhones probably as handed downs from people on contracts.

Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by pjmlp »

collyw wrote: post #115
pjmlp wrote: post #107

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Except that most Europeans actually go for pre-paid phones, unless they are really into iPhones and Samsung S devices.

Have you got any stats to back that claim up? When I tried to get internet here in Spain a few years ago, I asked Vodafone how much it cost. 40 Euros per month (then add on tax). I asked how much it was for a bundle with internet a phone and a mobile contract. Same price. I do see younger people with a lot of lat generation iPhones probably as handed downs from people on contracts.

As I mentioned "....unless they are really into iPhones and Samsung S devices.", which are way out of budget as pre-pay.

As for stats, I could only get those from 2015, it was 50% across Europe, 77% worldwide.

https://www.globalrewardsolutions.com/wp-content/uploads/GRS...

Although I did find a couple that show Spain only has around 20% prepaid, which was quite surprising to me.

Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by Retric »

oblio wrote: post #98
Retric wrote: post #95

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CPU is far more relevant if you want to keep your phone for 4+ years. The 2 year upgrade cycle on a smartphone is a major expense for many people.

Smartphone tech has matured. A smartphone CPU from 2011 would have been a drag in 2015, a CPU from 2018 will probably still be adequate in 2022.

That's less true for low end phones. People design software and websites for the average to slightly below average phone.

When you buy the highend they become average in a few years which is completely useable. However, low end phones quickly fall behind the curve and only keep dropping.

Now, that’s not to say the phone will physically last longer. Just that having headroom becomes more noticeable over time.

Re: Samsung warns profit to fall 60%

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Post by flashmozzg »

Retric wrote: post #117
oblio wrote: post #98

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Smartphone tech has matured. A smartphone CPU from 2011 would have been a drag in 2015, a CPU from 2018 will probably still be adequate in 2022.

That's less true for low end phones. People design software and websites for the average to slightly below average phone. When you buy the highend they become average in a few years which is completely useable. However, low end phones quickly fall behind the curve and only keep dropping. Now, that’s not to say the phone will physically last longer. Just that having headroom becomes more noticeable over time.

Still pretty much true. Sub 150$ Xiaomi phones from 2016 are still going strong (Redmi 3). And there are plenty of sub 150$ offerings with something like Snapdragon 636/710 and 4GB of RAM which will be more than enough for years to come unless you are into some hardcore smartphone gaming (oxymoron).
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