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Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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It’s so interesting to see actual data that confirms what most people might suspect, instead of what you see here on HN where people talk about $200k+ base being “not that unusual”.

200K base is not uncommon (after all the median here is 150k), but total comp >200K is very common.

It is uncommon. That’s literally what this is showing. Even with a decade of experience in the hottest markets it’s still in the 80%+ percentile.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Ben from Triplebyte here, I'm the engineer who built this tool from our offer data. The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. One explanation is that CS really is a field where educational signaling doesn't (or at least needn't) matter as much as in o…

> The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. The sample set of people using TripleByte is not going to be remotely representative of the market for developers as a whole. Candidates with stronger resumes are not going to be using third party recruiters…

> Candidates with stronger resumes are not going to be using third party recruiters

This is an interest statement.

It is interesting, because the data I am seeing is that apparently Triple Byte is able to give people quite successful results. (Yes, 150k base salary is pretty good).

But your statement seems to imply that candidates that use them are apparently below average or something. And yet even though they arent as good candidates, they are apparently able to give people really good results, despite that.

Is my barometer for tech salaries so off, that apparently people believe that 150k base isn't something that a "stronger" candidate might receive? Yes, I've heard of some high salaries, but I still wouldn't call this something to scoff at

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#113
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. The sample set of people using TripleByte is not going to be remotely representative of the market for developers as a whole. Candidates with stronger resumes are not going to be using third party recruiters…

> Candidates with stronger resumes are not going to be using third party recruiters to spray their resume around; they are going to be applying directly to the companies they want to work at or getting headhunted by the companies themselves. Why are those mutually exclusive? I like to think I have a decent resume and would apply to companies directly but if I can get more offers using Triplebyte why wouldnt I? Isn't…

Everything I've read indicates that you do still have to do the normal in-person technical interview gauntlet at each individual company. It's possible things have changed recently, though.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Ben from Triplebyte here, I'm the engineer who built this tool from our offer data. The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. One explanation is that CS really is a field where educational signaling doesn't (or at least needn't) matter as much as in o…

Hey Ben I really hate how your company spams every web page I visit.

I just wanted to say that and look forward to your company eventually going out of business.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Ben from Triplebyte here, I'm the engineer who built this tool from our offer data. The finding that most surprised me was that the mean salary for an engineer without a college degree is only $3k (~2%) less than for those with one; this gap is much smaller than in the labor market as a whole. One explanation is that CS really is a field where educational signaling doesn't (or at least needn't) matter as much as in o…

I am also self-taught, and I dropped out of school after three semesters, having taken no CS courses. It's difficult to use my experience as a reference, since that was 25 years ago, and I have consistently prioritized meaningful/interesting work over compensation in my career choices; but I have never had any trouble getting hired on at the companies I wanted to work for, including places which have the reputation of caring a lot about degrees. My impression is that degrees get you in the door but stop mattering after you're 5-8 years into your career, provided you've managed to pick up basic CS concepts at some point (big-O, graphs, all the stuff people love to hate about tech interviews).

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#118
post #110

I am not sure about these numbers. These base estimates are much higher than what sites like Levels.fyi and anecdotal numbers I've collected from my new grad peers. At the new grad level, Base salary numbers are $125-135k:Google, $105-115k:MSFT,Amazon,FB. The base salary numbers at other unicorns don't sound much different either. I am not saying that TB's numbers are wrong. But, there has to be some reason for the h…

The numbers look pretty legit. This is coming from a new grad with multiple offers.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the latter.

It's not the latter. Additional years don't matter as much past 10 or so... you're kind of doing the same types of things over and over as history repeats itself.

>you're kind of doing the same types of things over and over

Well this would be the root of the problem right here, not "experience doesn't matter after 10 years." That's nonsense. Experienced people with in-depth, cross-functional knowledge obtained from several, 5-8yr "sub careers" in various specialties can be worth their weight in gold.

Re: Base salaries offered to software engineers in SF, NYC, and Seattle

#120
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

200K base is not uncommon (after all the median here is 150k), but total comp >200K is very common.

It is uncommon. That’s literally what this is showing. Even with a decade of experience in the hottest markets it’s still in the 80%+ percentile.

[edit] It seems you’re arguing about whether 80th percentile base counts as “not uncommon”. It’s certainly not common, but I think I agree it’s also not uncommon.

[previously] The Triplebyte numbers are not total comp. So this link isn’t showing what you appear to be claiming at all.

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