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Why Bother with What Three Words?

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Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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There are plenty of alternatives to W3W, most notably Open Location Codes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Location_Code Alternatively, try a W3W parody: https://what3emojis.com/ http://www.what3fucks.com (NSFW text)

The emojis one have the nice property that close addresses share some words.

And the emoji one will work across languages.

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure downvote me for asking you to be accountable for your dispositions.

Here's the thing 'if you have problems with it build your own' is a useless response. Anyone can totally point out issues with a thing without knowing how to fix them (especially if the concept is fundamentally flawed). Expecting people to go out and found a whole standard/business every time they make a blog post about the problems with something is ridiculous.

And further, just because you find something to be harmful doesn't mean you have any motivation to replace or fix it. I don't like Facebook, but I certainly don't have any interest in writing my own open sourced Facebook.

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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I've built an open source alternative, 3geonames.org. The code is made up of 3 Geonames, with the first Geoname being the most prominent location name in relation to actual geography, for eg: https://3geonames.org/LONDON-ISUKI-LIPNITA . The 140k Geonames have a phonetic distance of at least 1 from each other. Support for elevation and an app with voice geocoding is coming soon.

Interesting. Tried the middle of Manchester and it gave me a location starting with Leeds: https://3geonames.org/LEEDS-RAGI-USANA

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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W3w was a pretty nice idea and I know some people that have been involved with the company. However, it is indeed not open. It's also VC funded which means that openness is incompatible with making money for them. Which means that most of its potential is lost or off limits unless you are a paying customer. They have a few of those and have had some success doing deals with postal services in countries that lack form…

> the codes are not hierarchical.

That, in itself, renders them hopelessly confusing.

I mean, imagine a domain name system like that. There'd be no domains and subdomains. Just a bunch of random names.

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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W3W suffers horribly from "call for price". You won't catch Google or Amazon making you call and talk to a human being (on GMT time no less) before figuring out if you can afford their service. I'm preparing my own version, truly open source (though with a premium component), with the following improvements over W3W: •Length-optimized. If one character sufficiently describes your location, you don't need to tack on e…

To be fair, W3W is already "spheroid-optimized", in that the named squares are quite close to 10'x10' both at the equator and poles. There are grid "skips" (see one here [1]) every so often to keep all of the squares close to the same size.

[1] https://gis.stackexchange.com/a/195696

Also don't discount the benefit of their distribution of the words. If you're using voice input and trying to get somewhere, the system can guess which of multiple inputs you mean. If you're in Louisville Kentucky you're more likely to be trying to get to "captain.water.water" (a ~90 minute drive from downtown) than "captains.water.water" (located on an island in the North Atlantic). Do you have a mechanism (maybe a check digit?) to help with that?

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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There are plenty of alternatives to W3W, most notably Open Location Codes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Location_Code Alternatively, try a W3W parody: https://what3emojis.com/ http://www.what3fucks.com (NSFW text)

I looked up my old apartment on what3fucks - "dickhead pollock cheeky gayass" - which is surprisingly fitting

I'd really love to hear the explanation for the "pollock" part ;)

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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Mostly off topic: I would like a URL shortener that uses a similar system so that instead of giving me small.url/b3DmQ it would be small.url/MouseHatDoor because I will sometimes share a link with my students and there is always one student who can't get it to work because they type it wrong or something. I can send them the link through a course announcement but it is more convenient to put a short url on screen and…

bit.ly generates a random string by default but will let you override it with the wording of your choice (as long as it's available).

Re: Why Bother with What Three Words?

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Mostly off topic: I would like a URL shortener that uses a similar system so that instead of giving me small.url/b3DmQ it would be small.url/MouseHatDoor because I will sometimes share a link with my students and there is always one student who can't get it to work because they type it wrong or something. I can send them the link through a course announcement but it is more convenient to put a short url on screen and…

bitly lets you make custom URLs, even if you're not a paid customer. You can make them anything you want, so long as it hasn't been taken already.
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