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Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by OedipusRex »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #68
marksomnian wrote: post #13

There is one thing that annoys me about generic TLDs like .dev, .website, .cloud, .network etc. For example, Salesforce have https://crm.dev - are they the only CRM in the world? Hell no, but they're the biggest, so they can be the only one in the .dev space. Same with workers.dev.

First come, first served. Just like real estate. It's not a trademark or anything.

Except it's not, Google has price ranges for registration dates. So if you wanted to registered today (Feb 19th) that's gonna cost you $11,500, but if you want to wait until it's free, that's 10 days from now.

https://domains.google/tld/dev/

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by CydeWeys »

artursapek wrote: post #94
benologist wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you buy them through Google Domains you need your Google account to renew domains, set nameservers etc, which is why these other registrars should be used. This same argument actually dates back years for not using your web host for your domain registrar, because of contrived problems hindering domain transfers.

In addition to using another registrar, it's generally a good idea to use single-purpose email accounts not associated with your identity to log in to places like Gandi and Namecheap.

And definitely use a registrar that supports 2-factor auth.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by babypuncher »

benologist wrote: post #15

On a recent thread Google personnel mentioned that ICANN forces all domain providers to backup their data so that any domain provider going bankrupt won't affect domains. However there was no mention of what procedures Google Domains themselves have put in place to protect their customers in case their customers get irreversibly banned somewhere within Google's vast empire. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=191787…

For what reasons does Google actually ban accounts?

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by WorldMaker »

TheDong wrote: post #89
ianai wrote: post #52

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Probably the former as it doesn’t require as much aggrandizement. I wonder whether a different approach would work. Instead of basing TLD name spacing on nebulous terms (com,net,org,io,edu,etc) create a naming system that better reflects the real world. The abstracted terms lead to clashing. So addressing actually reflects physical addressing. There’s only ever going to be one company at Apple’s corporate address. No…

We could just give everyone who wants a domain a UUID. My site could be 'uuid://09953e01-8164-4e40-8504-ed5507b50b03'. This seems to solve all of your complaints. No clashing, reflects the real world (names are all meaningless is reality, and physical locations are nebulous). > There’s only ever going to be one company at Apple’s corporate address. On the other hand, there are corporate addresses that have many compa…

If anyone actually wants to test this: IPv6 is already a modified version of this UUID plan. The designers were even kind enough in designing IPv6 to provide some nice memory shortcuts over UUID in the IPv6 address style, such as :: to fill runs of zeroes.

It might~ be fun to see how much of the web you can explore just memorizing IPv6 addresses rather than using DNS.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by CydeWeys »

kemyd wrote: post #106
CydeWeys wrote: post #76

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Google Domains is one of many registrars selling .dev domains. Feel free to use a different registrar that offers support in your country.

Prices for early access .dev domains in other providers are at least 2x higher. For example, using GoDaddy, you can buy .dev domain for 800$ instead of 350$ on Friday (4th stage of early access).

Filter down to just ".dev EAP" here to see all registrars participating in EAP: https://www.registry.google/register-a-domain/#!/

And we have no control over registrar prices, or countries that any given registrar operates in.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by _v7gu »

joshuamorton wrote: post #91
derefr wrote: post #87

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Maybe names that have obvious “generic” squatter value—i.e. names that (at the time of their attempted purchase) describe entire verticals, rather than uniquely identifying a business—should be put up for auction rather than being first-come-first-served. (That would also include names that describe a vertical that someone tried to trademark into being the name of a business anyway: pets.com and the like. If that tra…

They are, the domains are reverse-dutch auctioned. Buying a .dev domain today is like ~$10000, it'll be $12 in 2 weeks. Edit: Normal dutch, not reverse.

> reverse-dutch auction

Why? Even if it's "cute", it serves no other purpose than racking up prices and keeping buyers second-guessing themselves. Just run a normal Dutch or a second-price auction.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by mises »

CydeWeys wrote: post #85
baud147258 wrote: post #81

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So there would an .apple tld, with address like dev.apple, buy.apple and so on?

Indeed there is a .apple TLD: https://icannwiki.org/.apple I haven't seen any uses of it in the wild though.

https://experience.apple/ipad-pro/ https://share.newsroom.apple/

For future reference, search Google for "site:*.dev"

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by CydeWeys »

dragonwriter wrote: post #109
josteink wrote: post #102

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But nobody with any respect for themselves has an un-ISP doing borderline illegal shit like that. It hardly seems like a worthwhile problem to solve at gTLD-scale.

> But nobody with any respect for themselves has an un-ISP doing borderline illegal shit like that. advertising and malware (both ad-related and not) injection by ISPs is a well documented global issue.

And not just ISPs. Governments, state-sponsored attackers, garden variety scammers, malware, compromised WiFi routers, etc.

Re: First .dev Domains Go Live

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Post by [deleted] »

benologist wrote: post #99
icebraining wrote: post #92

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But Google Domains ain't issuing this TLD; Google Registry is, and they don't even push their sibling service, it's shown as any other. So I don't see the relevance in their thread.

Everything I said is true for Google Registry too... and anywhere else Google sells domains. They each should be ensuring domain portability for their respective customers and so far they're not doing that.

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