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Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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post #41

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DDG's main marketing model is talking about how they believe Google is privacy threat, so they'll highlight that angle in any change.

Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible

why would it be a "donation"? DDG isn't a charity.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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They were using an open source map company, not google maps. By that standard, I feel this is probably a privacy regression. I'm looking forward to the day when people know what they are talking about.

> They were using an open source map company, not google maps. By that standard, I feel this is probably a privacy regression. I'm not sure this is a fair comparison. Open source is not the same as privacy-friendly. Apple makes privacy a core-tenet of their product. I do not see the same stance from Mapbox.

Apples core tenet is making money, they have recently started making privacy a concern probably because they think that it will make money.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#115
post #8

I wish they were explaining why they moved away from Mapbox and OSM in general!

>I wish they were explaining why they moved away from Mapbox and OSM in general!

Because it sucks. Isn’t that obvious? There’s no point in having a feature that nobody uses. I switched to DDG a few months ago and this has always been the one weakness. This is really good news IMO. Apple maps has come a long long way since launch, and their data is about on par with Google at this point.

You can argue all day that of course it’s still a commercial company. But I’d rather compromise and hitch my wagon to the folks that are outwardly explicitly drawing out their commitment to privacy, whose incentives I understand and trust.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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post #104

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That and from a purely data privacy angle, Apple is legitimately better than Google.

Are they or do you just believe that because of what you think you know about the difference between the two companies?

Apple's business model is not selling your data for advertisements. They make their money the old-fashioned way - charging customers for their product (hardware).

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#117
I have to say I'm pretty upset about this.

Not over privacy stuff (I don't trust Apple that much either), but because Apple maps just sucks. Unless things changed within the last 4 months, Apple Maps couldn't accurately navigate me from Custer State Park to Mt. Rushmore (which really isn't far).

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

#118

I have to say I'm pretty upset about this. Not over privacy stuff (I don't trust Apple that much either), but because Apple maps just sucks. Unless things changed within the last 4 months, Apple Maps couldn't accurately navigate me from Custer State Park to Mt. Rushmore (which really isn't far).

Have you previously used OpenStreetMap? I'd be interested in hearing from those who have. I can say as a DDG user that presentation-wise I disliked what DDG was using before -- but from a direction-accuracy perspective I simply have no idea and would love to hear from others.

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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post #88

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Why does the glass always have to be half empty? Maybe Apple simply was the better choice?

DDG's entire schtick was privacy and they are switching from open data + commercial sources to a commercial company.

Isn't Apple's map data based on OSM too?

Re: DuckDuckGo will use Apple Maps

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post #88

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Or Apple's marketing team lead to a donation to DDG to make it possible

Why does the glass always have to be half empty? Maybe Apple simply was the better choice?

Is it though? A few months ago Apple Maps gave me wrong directions going from Custer State Park to Mt. Rushmore (two major tourist locations relatively near one another).
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