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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by geekamongus »

egeozcan wrote: post #58
PKop wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they're trying to run a business, so why ask the question as if it's surprising?

Why would running a business prevent them from offering a self-hosted solution? Look at Confluence, if you need examples.

Or MS Office :-B

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by MattGrommes »

mjulian wrote: post #51

I love the product, but the login workflow is awful. Why innovate on logins? We've solved that problem. Specifically, the login is a randomly-generated one-time code sent to your email address. Notion says this is more secure than them storing a username+password, but that's a dubious argument. They've also said this is two-factor auth (lolno). A side effect of this is that Notion is unusable on my mobile device sinc…

Yeah, Medium does this same thing and it makes me hate logging in so I'm rarely in the account I pay for. Especially since Medium makes you log in seemingly every few days.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by perenzo »

ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

With https://collect-app.com I'm indeed trying to build such a tool that is not requiring any service and giving you back 100% of privacy and data control, right now. But it is in a very early state yet. But I would love to get some feedback on the idea.

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by dkarbayev »

owenwil wrote: post #92
ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

There's a reason nobody really does this: there's just no money in it. Nylas mail is a good example of this: it offered the ability to self-run it and pay them for the license, but nobody really did. I wonder what they would need to charge to make it feasible? $1000 a year? It makes me pretty sad, but it's just such a distraction for a company of Notion's size and stage.

Well, then we should create open-source analog of notion. I actually was itching wondering what could I create in OSS realm. Probably will have a look at this task :)

Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by Spivak »

PKop wrote: post #38
techntoke wrote: post #7

This isn't self-hosted? I'm interested in a self-hosted solution that uses local markdown files and directories to manage content.

But they're trying to run a business, so why ask the question as if it's surprising?

It's surprising that I (for personal use) and my company (commercial use) would be willing to pay good money for the ability to run this app on-prem?

Personal data notwithstanding we have data we put in our company wiki that is simply not allowed to be hosted on cloud services without lots of red tape and compliance certifications. Offering a on-prem option, at least for us, pushes all that responsibility onto our ops team, and Notion gets paid about the same but without the hosting costs.

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