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SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

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Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

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> bad idea about personal finance Such as?

Good advice: Normal folks should put their money in index funds - not individual stocks and certainly not options.

Depends on how well off normal folks are and how long they have been doing it.

I started at £120 a month and it was ten years before I started now my minimum buy is £2000 and I only do the occasional single stock even now 20+ years later.

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#112

Let's talk about conventional alternatives to this. I've heard good things about Ally bank's 2% saving account. Does anyone here use anything comparable? How about credit unions?

For credit unions, Alliant and Lake Michigan Max Checking are both great. If you're outside of the Midwest, you can become eligible to join either with a donation.

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Through all of this I can't help but be reminded of the 2008 financial crisis and think "this is not going to end well." One part of that crisis was Icelandic Banks making a huge push for savings all over the UK and other parts of Europe ("IceSave") with the promise of better interest rates. When it all went belly up those savers realized these Icelandic banks were not quite the same thing as UK banks and Iceland ref…

I remember (but cannot find a citation) in ~2005/6 AIG was offering 4% saving accounts. I'm having deja vu all over again.

yeah i had a 4% account from HSBC around that time. This immediately brought up an uneasy feeling for me, like this is the "pump" side of a pump and dump or the books are so ugly they need cash deposits at any cost to make it look sane.

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post #102

It's Bloomberg reporting so they probably got it completely backwards, or made it up, or misunderstood what was told to them. Not saying they're right or wrong, i'm saying Bloomberg is a very unreliable news source, especially in tech.

Just because the company financial news is about has an app doesn't make it "tech". And here they're reporting direct, attributed statements, so it should be easy for you to explain what they "didn't understand".

I'm not going to waste my time reading anything from this garbage publication. After "The Big Hack" I realized that life was too short to read articles by sources that just make stuff up. If you want to waste your time, be my guest, but I'd rather not.

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#115

Let's talk about conventional alternatives to this. I've heard good things about Ally bank's 2% saving account. Does anyone here use anything comparable? How about credit unions?

Radius Bank offers 2.05% interest on a savings account as long as you have $25,000 balance, or 1.5% for balances over $2,500. It seems to be the best option I've found. (see note for fine print).

They also offer a checking account that pays 1.2% with zero fees and even waives ATM fees worldwide. These are all FDIC insured. I've been banking with them for about 6 months now and they're pretty awesome, outside of having a rather janky web and mobile app.

https://radiusbank.com/personal/high-yield-savings/

Radius High-Yield Savings is a free savings account with no monthly maintenance fee, no minimum balance requirement after $100.00 to open the account, and is FDIC-insured up to the maximum allowed. Annual Percentage Yield (APY) accurate as of 12/14/2018. Minimum amount to open account is $100.00. Rate tiers are as follows, 0.00% APY applies to balances of $0.01—$9.99, 0.05% APY applies to the entire balance on balances of $10.00—$2,499.99, 1.50% APY applies to the entire balance on balances of $2,500-$24,999.99, and 2.05% APY applies to the entire balance on balances of $25,000 or more. Rates may change after account is opened. Fees may reduce earnings.

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#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. But MMFAs can default in ways that aren't guaranteed by the government. The distinction between zero and near zero matters.

This is an important distinction. When the money marketeer redeems a dollar for less than a dollar it "Breaks the Buck" [0]. Cowen's MM account IIRC was the first one to do that back during the 01 crash. [0] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/breaking-the-buck.asp

The rules around breaking the buck were significantly changed after 08. Funds can suspend transactions instead now.

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because the company financial news is about has an app doesn't make it "tech". And here they're reporting direct, attributed statements, so it should be easy for you to explain what they "didn't understand".

I'm not going to waste my time reading anything from this garbage publication. After "The Big Hack" I realized that life was too short to read articles by sources that just make stuff up. If you want to waste your time, be my guest, but I'd rather not.

Then please don't waste your time commenting with sweeping general statements on all their submissions either. It's not like it's news for HN readers.

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#119
post #102

It's Bloomberg reporting so they probably got it completely backwards, or made it up, or misunderstood what was told to them. Not saying they're right or wrong, i'm saying Bloomberg is a very unreliable news source, especially in tech.

Just because the company financial news is about has an app doesn't make it "tech". And here they're reporting direct, attributed statements, so it should be easy for you to explain what they "didn't understand".

One of my pet peeves is that certain internet based companies are reported as "tech" and others aren't.

What's "tech" about Uber or AirBnb?

Re: SIPC Says It Has Serious Concerns About Robinhood's New Product

#120

Through all of this I can't help but be reminded of the 2008 financial crisis and think "this is not going to end well." One part of that crisis was Icelandic Banks making a huge push for savings all over the UK and other parts of Europe ("IceSave") with the promise of better interest rates. When it all went belly up those savers realized these Icelandic banks were not quite the same thing as UK banks and Iceland ref…

I remember (but cannot find a citation) in ~2005/6 AIG was offering 4% saving accounts. I'm having deja vu all over again.

That wasn't an unreasonable rate at that time[1], I don't recall the exact timing, but my credit union was at 4% on savings for a while, before fed set interest rates to near zero for many years.

[1] https://www.depositaccounts.com/blog/archive/2005.html

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