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Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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I used to watch 3-4 hours of Netflix every evening, then I started actually subscribing to YouTube channels and now I have 2ish hours of subscription content to watch every single day of the week. n=1 but I don't doubt it! I even contribute to several via Patreon.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Did you try to use Netflix outside of U.S.? It's pathetic.

I'm french, we have one of the weakest offer in the netflix world. It's still way, way more content I could (sanely) consume in my entire life. I think the problem comes from something else. Regularly I watch movies with friends: they can't appreciate many good movies anymore. They need fast attention catching stuff. Otherwise they get bored, they loose focus (even watch their phone), and it snowballs since they miss…

There was always ways to consume things on the side. I remember way before Netflix (around 2003) I went through a phase of about six months where every day I would come home from work, put a playlist of Mr. Show on my computer (a single TV show that only had 30 episodes), and play Dynasty Warriors 3 for 2 to 3 hours. I probably rewatched Mr. Show at least 10 times in that six months.

And after the first time I mostly didn't look at it anymore, it was just the audio I chose to play while I was playing the game, and since I'd already seen the whole series, it was predictable and didn't distract too much from the game playing.

I don't find watching TV to be that virtuous, and usually when I'm doing it I'm feeling guilty for not doing other things. So yeah, I'll do that as a 'side thing' and not feel too bad about it.

However, it's gotten more difficult than it used to be, as I used to think that TV wasn't too good and was an easy to skip medium, now I think there's just waaaay too much good stuff, I just have to actively choose not to watch it (like so far I've managed not to watch any Marvel TV shows on Netflix, but it's always there tempting me).

It's also usually the only leisure activity we can do together in the evenings during the week that my girlfriend feels like doing, so that's how I keep up with Game of Thrones, West World, Silicon Valley, Doctor Who, and whatnot. But I might be designing something on the computer while we're watching them.

I wish it were easier to write with TV on in the background though. I'm getting way, way behind on that.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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It's not better by all objective attributes. The attributes that have improved may be the most important ones (and God how I hated those FBI warnings), but Netflix customers complain about two things: Time spent browsing the library, and that they're unhappy with what they actually select (which is obviously partly their choice, partly Netflix' UI). Put differently, I've worked for several streamers. One of them expl…

I'm the first to agree the netflix UI has huge flaws. It's still miles better than going to rent a VHS in a mall. It's still miles better than buying a DVD online. It's still miles better than having to download the movie on eMule. And you do have a small library sample on netflix. It's your front page. Now people either complain there is nothing to watch (front page not interesting anymore after a while), or too muc…

Different people.

Nothing requires you to add apples and oranges in the same way as I do. Your most important feature may be my totally unimportant feature, and that's neither your fault nor mine. And as usual gripes are louder than happy purrs.

I was happy with the DVD shop I primarily used; the owner's selection was much better suited to me than Netflix' is. (No I'm not a Netflix customer, but I've used it in a professional capacity.)

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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There are free browser extensions that block ads. The only value add is the premium content.

Do the content creators get paid in this case? I'm all for blocking ads when it's some giant corporation that gives me no other choice but when I'm watching someone's videos they made in their basement and put a huge amount of work into I'd rather they were paid for the effort. That's why I have YouTube Premium - best of both worlds.

I agree that I want content creators to get paid, but I really hate advertising.

I also pay for YouTube Premium and like their new subscriber feature, but also don't mind ads when they are embedded in the content and the content creator gets to pitch the product in their style. One notable example on YouTube is Binging With Babish.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Do you have any examples of this? I have never noticed this so far, the "crew" is always in the video or am just not watching those videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R3moEtEmIA This one I saw recently.

> after literally one year of work we are finally finished with one of our biggest videos so far!!!

This would not fall into the category of "amateur" churning out a high quality video a week. These are maybe amateurs that did a considerable amount of work (with the help of others?).

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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> PC propaganda How disconnected are our realities? How are we supposed to communicate or work towards a common goal in this world? I really mean it.

The world is already improving at blazing pace https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_Now I am not "white" but rewriting everything due to PC culture is idiotic. We must learn from the good and the bad. Also attacking men, family, and fatherhood at every chance is getting old. Simpsons did it, already, and long ago. And even they are under attack for being racist. Don't get me wrong. Make your content and do you…

> Also attacking men, family, and fatherhood at every chance is getting old.

Who does that?

> Make your content and do your thing.

???

I'd gladly take the position of someone responsible for highly successful Netflix productions...

> Just stop shoving it down everyone else's throat

You get the idea of markets and choice right?

I'm just a politically literate European with disdain for intellectually dishonest Youtubers and easily digestible propaganda for the status quo.

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> If I want to watch well produced online content, I do not think Youtube.com I do. Historia Civilis is presently my favourite channel. Production quality is nothing to write home about, but the quality is fantastic. Moreover, I don’t walk away feeling like I crapped away thirty minutes—I learned something.

There’s two things I adore about Historia Civilis. One is the way he represents terrain and units on a battle field in battle related episodes. It might not look fancy but it gets the job done. Normally I struggle to imagine unfamiliar terrain so this helps a lot. The second is he passes the Gell-Mann test for me. There are certain sections in history I know really well because I’ve read multiple books on it and he g…

What do you mean by the "Gell Mann" test?

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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There’s two things I adore about Historia Civilis. One is the way he represents terrain and units on a battle field in battle related episodes. It might not look fancy but it gets the job done. Normally I struggle to imagine unfamiliar terrain so this helps a lot. The second is he passes the Gell-Mann test for me. There are certain sections in history I know really well because I’ve read multiple books on it and he g…

What do you mean by the "Gell Mann" test?

The quality of a news source passing a simple test of credibility by presenting an accurate account of a topic the reader is deeply familiar with.

For instance, if you are a Computer Scientist and you find yourself agreeing to a layman explanation of the halting problem while reading a NYTimes article (targeting a general audience) then the article passes the Gell-Mann test.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_amnesia_effect

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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Do you have any examples of this? I have never noticed this so far, the "crew" is always in the video or am just not watching those videos?

any youtuber who averages 100k views per video with more than one video a week probably either has a video editor or dark circles under their eyes. a lot of them have camera men/audio guys and a personal assistant to keep track of their schedule if they're the jetsetting type amateur youtube only exists <30k views + maybe 1 video in a week

I don't think those numbers can only be reached with helpers.

How much effort camera/editing is really depends on the genre. E.g. for gaming channels, camera work basically doesn't exist, so it's "just" editing (which again highly depends on the style). At the lower level of "professional YouTuber", having to pay someone else vs doing it yourself would also make quite a difference for making the financials work out or not. Actually, I'd guess in gaming the most common external help would be a chat moderator for live streams.

Re: Netflix’s biggest competition isn’t sleep, it’s YouTube

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> I get disgusted by thinking why does Netflix want people to not sleep. Why auto-play in 5 sec? It's like linear TV. No one complains about the "non-stop" aspect there.

Well I do, that's part of why I stopped watching broadcasts altogether. The autoplay-next-thing can be disabled in the settings though, although it'll still auto-play a trailer after 15s if you complete a movie or whole series, which I loathe since it's a real mood killer after movies (I very much enjoy chilling or discussing while credits roll).

> that's part of why I stopped watching broadcasts altogether.

For me it was not because of linear programming, but because the ads became ever more obnoxious and interrupting - first it was simple ad blocks. 5min, nice, take a pee. Then the stations increased the loudness of ad spots, well fuck your ears if you decided to not take a pee. Then stations started putting layers of ads above the content and the last fad before I decided to tv-exit was that stations PiP-ed the content right in the middle of action scenes or whatnot - at 25% of screen estate, and the rest 75% was ads. Also, quality of content that was not US cinema radically decreased - Germans who know the Galileo of pre-2000 know what I mean... it's all about the TV form of clickbait, aka "eyeball-baiting", now.

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