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Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by em-bee »

jeremyjh wrote: post #16
Arkanosis wrote: post #12

I didn't know Spectrum until today. It looks similar to Gitter. As I understand it, it means we now have at least three “slack-like”, well-backed, open-source, community-centered chats: - Gitter, now owned by GitLab; - Spectrum, now owned by GitHub; - Mattermost, independent, but fully integrated within GitLab. That's great to have credible alternatives to the proprietary behemots that are Slack, Discord and others,…

For Slack to do this would be lowering the drawbridge across their moat. I don’t see it happening.

they even removed their irc support. i lost any interest i had left in slack at that point

Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by rst »

pritambaral wrote: post #30
rst wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depending on definitions, you could also include rocket.chat, and Zulip (open core). There's a bunch. As to federation, the ActivityPub protocol underlying Mastodon, and a bunch of other projects, was originally designed to support it -- but the devil's in the details, particularly regarding finding a common data model (do you have topics within channels, like Zulip does? what do you support within a channel beyond p…

> Zulip (open core) Isn't Zulip fully open source? That's what they say on their site: https://zulipchat.com/

Apparently so. I misread the website; their "Enterprise" support package offers better support, but no extra features.

Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by userbinator »

jamesgeck0 wrote: post #63
coolspot wrote: post #54

I am curious how it is not a trademark infringement? Can someone please explain? Skype was sued in UK for using letters "S,K,Y" by brand "Sky" and lost [1] [1] - https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-32593735

In the US, similar trademarks are fine as long as they're in different industries. See https://www.estesrockets.com/ and https://www.estes-express.com/ for example.

Unfortunately there's https://spectrum.im/ which is a bit close for comfort; compare:

    https://spectrum.chat/
    https://spectrum.im/

Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by vishnu_ks »

IshKebab wrote: post #102
carwyn wrote: post #33

I spent a fair bit of time trying out many of the different chat systems out there for our tech community. In particular I looking for solutions that could do a half decent job of combining synchronous as well as asynchronous communication. The main benefit of implementations that manage to pull this off is being able to handle real-time chat but also make it easier to catch up with the conversation history if you've…

Slack has threads. I don't know why nobody knows this. And unlike Zulip they aren't mandatory, which is a bit nicer for small channels.

I think plenty of people knows Slack has threads. Threads in Slack are secondary and are mostly meant for having conversations that people don't care about. Zulip has a much superior threading model. Each and every conversation is a new thread and has a topic. This model makes it extremely easier to catch up and participate in conversations. Once you get used to the threading model of Zulip its hard to tolerate threading model like Slack which is really inefficient and time wasting.

Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by tomc1985 »

Arkanosis wrote: post #12

I didn't know Spectrum until today. It looks similar to Gitter. As I understand it, it means we now have at least three “slack-like”, well-backed, open-source, community-centered chats: - Gitter, now owned by GitLab; - Spectrum, now owned by GitHub; - Mattermost, independent, but fully integrated within GitLab. That's great to have credible alternatives to the proprietary behemots that are Slack, Discord and others,…

They need to develop a standard protocol, like with IRC

Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by laurentoget »

bencollier49 wrote: post #116

That has to be a trademark violation in the UK. Would be very surprised if the trademarks for Clive Sinclair's ZX Spectrum weren't in the same category as this. And thanks to the "Next", they're still in use.

spectrum is also the brand name used by charter telecommunications for their ISP and news business, so they obviously do not have much concern about trademark infringement.

Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by tibu »

torarnv wrote: post #92
sandGorgon wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is so riot.im which is built on top of Matrix.org (which was built for federation and E2E encryption). There are already IRC and Discord bridges to matrix. Riot is being deployed as the govt chat infrastructure for 5 million users in France. The SaaS version is modular.im (much cheaper than slack)

I used riot.im as my primary IRC client (via its IRC bridge) from home, work, and on mobile, for a year or so. Unfortunately there were lots of issues and bugs, to the point where I couldn't trust that when I wrote someone a message they would get it, or vice versa, so I had to give up on it. I'm now a happy IRCCloud user.

We're dropping riot because of the same reason right now. Sometimes messages do not pop up as push and that makes communication unreliable.

Re: Spectrum is joining GitHub

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Post by max23_ »

ggregoire wrote: post #10

I quite often take a look at the code of Spectrum: https://github.com/withspectrum/spectrum . It's my go-to (with https://github.com/Automattic/wp-calypso ) to get an idea of how they solved a particular issue in their React app. I'm really thankful to them for open sourcing their product. I wish more companies would go this way. Anyway, congratz to Max (also author of Styled Components) and the rest of the team!

It is my first time knowing Spectrum and will definitely look into the code base for idea/solution when working in React.

Kudos and appreciate the team for open sourcing it too!

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