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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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How much does a cup of coffee go for in Au?

Around $4. And developers can certainly make over 100/hr, but in my experience that would mean contracting/consulting as a specialist with at least 5 years experience in a given technology.

so you just make and save money in Australia? Rent and all are normal prices or what's the story ? I know the economy has been booming for 20+ years.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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White male, graduated from quite a good school in France in 2006. Wages in gross, 33% tax on it. And the employer also pays 33% tax on gross, for social insurances.

- 2006: 36k€, Java/js dev in Luxembourg/banking

- 2007-2010: 35k€, Java dev in France, service company,

- 2011-2013: 70k$, Java dev in Australia

- 2014: Startup founder (France), 30k€

- 2015: Startup founder, 50k€,

- 2016: Startup founder, 60k€

- 2017: Startup founder, 70k€

I feel like a failure, compared to all my friends and people on HN who show high salaries for engineers, but I suppose we only see wages of the successful ones, and I reckon I’m super angry with life which is a vicious circle for employers.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…

How many hours do you work per week? How many days off per year?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Burner account. Software engineer, C, C++, Assembler, Java, LUA, python, perl, bash, objc, swift, COBOL, Pascal, EJB, Linux, Windows, Mac, BSD.

1996: 28k

1998: 40k

2000: 65k

2003: 70k

2004: 72k

2009: Startup founder in San Francisco, 40k

2011: Startup founter same company: 85k

2014: Startup founder same company, 115k

2016: Freelancer, effectively 50k due to lack of contracts

2018: bbigco, 90k

Dunno what I'm doing wrong... I've got a few github/sf projects I started with 1000+ stars and over 10mb of open source code. I guess I suck at negotiation?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#116

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How much does a cup of coffee go for in Au?

Around $4. And developers can certainly make over 100/hr, but in my experience that would mean contracting/consulting as a specialist with at least 5 years experience in a given technology.

(in melbourne) $4 a coffee for fancy cafes in expensive parts of town. $0 a coffee if you dont care and are happy to swig whatever is free at work.

can certainly hit $aud 100 / hour and upwards for full-time contract gigs with bigcos (banks, finance, telcos). can hit that with less than 5 years experience.

if the client knows what they're doing they may also assess for ability, not just years experience. but at least some big clients don't know what they're doing and are overrun with whatever resources of varying ability bodyshops manage to palm off onto their projects.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Everyone excited about SF Bay salaries - please don't forget how expensive is to live here. My rent is $3K/m (half of my net salary) and that's considered "a decent rate" for 3 bedrooms. Simple salad or a sandwich will cost you ~$15. Round-trip fare on BART - $11. So just to get to work and eat something over lunch will cost you over $600/m. If you're offered a job here with relocation - negotiate! If possible - bett…

If you earn 3 times as much, but wind up spending 3 times as much, you are still saving 3 times as much. It's almost always better to get high pay in a high CoL area, than to get low pay in a low CoL area.

A number on a bank statement is the map, not the territory. Money's value is what it can be exchanged for. Saving 3 times as much is merely keeping up.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

#118

White male, graduated from quite a good school in France in 2006. Wages in gross, 33% tax on it. And the employer also pays 33% tax on gross, for social insurances. - 2006: 36k€, Java/js dev in Luxembourg/banking - 2007-2010: 35k€, Java dev in France, service company, - 2011-2013: 70k$, Java dev in Australia - 2014: Startup founder (France), 30k€ - 2015: Startup founder, 50k€, - 2016: Startup founder, 60k€ - 2017: St…

Don't worry, I think tech salaries in the US are just massively higher than in Europe. I am not sure why, probably they are just in general better at capitalism, i.e. the companies extract more value from the market, engineers actually switch jobs for a better salary and demand pay raises.

See on glassdoor, developer salaries in Berlin and Paris are 45k€ (and usually no options) while $90k in Seattle.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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post #100

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Almost but not quite - at high ends of salary the marginal tax rate is 38%, so $50k->$100k doesn't necessarily make you richer, it just makes Uncle Sam happier.

Well, if your workload would be the same either way, you'd want to be in a world where there are more tax dollars than less :)

Not really - the same tax dollars buy less service and infrastructure when the workers and suppliers also need to function in high CoL areas. A $2.5bn mile of subway in New York isn't a priori better than a $600bn mile of subway in Seattle. A $59k entry level teacher in San Francisco isn't a priori better than a $33k entry level teacher in Wisconsin.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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This is certainly an intresting post and i likethe OP attitude. We should be totally transparent about our compensation as he did. Salary is just the result of a negotiation, nothing else, in the majority of cases it does not reflect anything more than your "perceived" value.

White male born in the '88 in Italy. I have a bachelor degree and working since 2008. Here in Italy is quite uncommon to have big jumps in salaries if you want to stay in the "Technical" position.

However it's quite common to have "food stamps" for lunch as benefit ( range between 5€ to 8€ )

2008 - 18000 €/year - Junior Software Developer - Consulting Firm A

2009 - 19000 €/year - Software Developer - Consulting Firm A

2010 - 20000 €/year - Software Developer - Consulting Firm A

2011 - 21000 €/year - Software Developer - Consulting Firm A

2012 - 23000 €/year - Senior Software Developer - Online booking startup (No stock options)

2013 - 25000 €/year - Senior Software Developer - Consulting Firm B

2014 - 25000 €/year - Senior Software Developer - Consulting Firm B

2015 - 28000 €/year - Technical Lead - Consulting Firm B

2016 - 30000 €/year - Technical Lead - Consulting Firm B

2017 - 32000 €/year - Technical Lead - Consulting Firm C

2018 - 32000 €/year - Technical Lead / Solution Architect / Whatever - Consulting Firm C

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