The cost of keeping Singapore squeaky clean

Post by dev_north_east » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 11:10 AM UTC

slazaro wrote: post #104

Reason077 wrote: post #95

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For a while there was a solution involving “hoop” bins with clear plastic bags so you could see what was inside them. But recent terror attacks (which used knives and vehicles, not bins) prompted their removal again.

Wait, that doesn't make any sense. If the see-through bins solved a problem, why would they be removed when a different problem appears? They're independent problems, removing the bins when they're not involved in the new kind of attacks seems just random.

Post by benj111 » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 11:43 AM UTC

EmbarrassedFuel wrote: post #92

Reason077 wrote: post #80

In London, the “war on litter bins” (removal of litter bins from train stations and central areas, supposedly to prevent them being misused by terrorists) has created a culture of simply leaving litter on the floor or in the street because there are no bins to put it in. Perhaps that’s ok in busy central locations where a street cleaner will be along shortly to pick it up, but the problem is that people are now accus…

The bin removal was actually prompted by a period when the IRA would put bombs into bins in train stations etc., see eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warrington_bomb_attacks So not a completely idiotic policy.

Post by larrysalibra » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 12:20 PM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #97

Sureai wrote: post #25

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I had one metallic straw in a fancy cocktail bar. The rest were plastic. Not to say, that I get a plastic cup full of ice with a plastic straw when I order a green tea, which comes in a can and is already ice cold. For the litter I see the most: part of plastic bags and Dasani water bottles. I hope the change in trash management, recycling and maybe trash separation does not only start with the rich people here, but…

Metallic straw? Like, reusable? Fairly sure that wouldn't fly anywhere else, I mean, even plastic straws are individually packaged right now due to hygiene considerations. Disposable plastic > poorly cleaned reusables.

Post by jplayer01 » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 1:20 PM UTC

echevil wrote: post #23

jplayer01 wrote: post #7

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But...but freedom. It's aggravating to see how many Americans think individual freedom should absolutely and automatically trump every other concern.

I lived in Singapore for six years and then San Francisco for almost six years now, but seriously, I don’t feel US is any more “free” in any tangible ways. Maybe there are more “freedom” defined by laws in US but certainly not something that normal people will miss in daily lives. Also over focusing on “individual” freedom apparently won’t always align with the interest of the entire society and could eventually brin…

Post by CaptainZapp » Tue, Oct 30, 2018, 1:33 PM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #97

Sureai wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had one metallic straw in a fancy cocktail bar. The rest were plastic. Not to say, that I get a plastic cup full of ice with a plastic straw when I order a green tea, which comes in a can and is already ice cold. For the litter I see the most: part of plastic bags and Dasani water bottles. I hope the change in trash management, recycling and maybe trash separation does not only start with the rich people here, but…

Metallic straw? Like, reusable? Fairly sure that wouldn't fly anywhere else, I mean, even plastic straws are individually packaged right now due to hygiene considerations. Disposable plastic > poorly cleaned reusables.

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