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Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by joshberkus »

mikl wrote: post #87

An interesting mirroring of the popular CoCs these days. While they enshrine what one could call "San Francisco Democrat" values, this CoC enshrines christian conservative values. If you think value-based CoCs are fine, you shouldn't have a problem with this.

They're certainly Christian values, but they're not "conservative", at least not by the American definition. I'll point you to these tenets:

* Relieve the poor. * Clothe the naked. * Visit the sick.

... those seem like "liberal values" to me, at least on the American spectrum.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by iodiniemetra »

_pgmf wrote: post #100

If the code of conduct angers you, stop and think -- how did you feel one minute before you read the CoC? Is the problem really the CoC, or is it your collection of beliefs that is causing the problem? Furthermore, are you even affected? Do you contribute bug reports or patches? Follow the SQLite mailing list? Is anything here designed to prevent you from continuing to do so? SQLite's author is a spiritual guy. There…

#1 on the list is: First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength.

I'm an atheist - I am unable and unwilling to comply with this CoC. So yes, I would say that I am affected.

Other well known religious folk in the foss world, such as Larry Wall, do not insist on this kind of exclusion.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by stupidbird »

finnthehuman wrote: post #55

I am surprised at how dismissive and intolerant the comments here are of this code of conduct. And I say this as an atheist that still harbors a lot of resentment against my family's religion. Do you have so little empathy that you can't possibly image someone adopting The Rule of St. Benedict in good faith (no pun intended)?

This says more of "we're lazy and don't actually care to do this seriously" more than it says anything in good faith.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by stupidbird »

mikl wrote: post #87

An interesting mirroring of the popular CoCs these days. While they enshrine what one could call "San Francisco Democrat" values, this CoC enshrines christian conservative values. If you think value-based CoCs are fine, you shouldn't have a problem with this.

Of course value-based CoCs are fine. The problem with this isn't the content, it's the fact that they're using the content because they fundamentally disagree with codes of conduct.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by feketegy »

USA != Rest of the World. Most problems are not issues, only for US devs as tech tend to be very US centric.

I'm all for being civil online, but against everyone behaving defined by a template.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by runjake »

Right in the first section, people:

"However, those who wish to participate in the SQLite community, either by commenting on the public mailing lists or by contributing patches or suggestions or in any other way, are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that honors the overarching spirit of the rule, even if they disagree with specific details. Polite and professional discussion is always welcomed, from anyone."

Edit: I am not religious at all.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by qbaqbaqba »

djsumdog wrote: post #86
stephenr wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Respect your seniors How about just "respect people". I've literally seen how "respect your seniors" plays out in reality: any idea from new/junior team members is effectively ignored, because they're not 'senior' enough.

I agree. Giving someone undue respect just because they're old is ageism. Some old people never really grew up and are still jerks (I plan on being one of them; getting my grumpy on). Respect everyone.

Senior in this context probably means superiors. Someone has to look the original Latin version up.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by virtuexru »

iodiniemetra wrote: post #112
_pgmf wrote: post #100

If the code of conduct angers you, stop and think -- how did you feel one minute before you read the CoC? Is the problem really the CoC, or is it your collection of beliefs that is causing the problem? Furthermore, are you even affected? Do you contribute bug reports or patches? Follow the SQLite mailing list? Is anything here designed to prevent you from continuing to do so? SQLite's author is a spiritual guy. There…

#1 on the list is: First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. I'm an atheist - I am unable and unwilling to comply with this CoC. So yes, I would say that I am affected. Other well known religious folk in the foss world, such as Larry Wall, do not insist on this kind of exclusion.

> I'm an atheist

Don't worry! You can still use SQLite as God is infinite in his grace.

Re: Sqlite: Code Of Conduct

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Post by exolymph »

iodiniemetra wrote: post #112
_pgmf wrote: post #100

If the code of conduct angers you, stop and think -- how did you feel one minute before you read the CoC? Is the problem really the CoC, or is it your collection of beliefs that is causing the problem? Furthermore, are you even affected? Do you contribute bug reports or patches? Follow the SQLite mailing list? Is anything here designed to prevent you from continuing to do so? SQLite's author is a spiritual guy. There…

#1 on the list is: First of all, love the Lord God with your whole heart, your whole soul, and your whole strength. I'm an atheist - I am unable and unwilling to comply with this CoC. So yes, I would say that I am affected. Other well known religious folk in the foss world, such as Larry Wall, do not insist on this kind of exclusion.

From the preface:

"The entire rule is good and wholesome, and yet we make no enforcement of the more introspective aspects."

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