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M.I.T. Plans College for Artificial Intelligence, Backed by $1B

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Post by sevensor »

jmmcd wrote: post #101
perennate wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MIT's news article [1] has more concrete information. The NYT article is a bit misleading. It is a College of Computing, not College of AI. Also note that MIT has Schools (School of Engineering, School of Science, etc.), not Colleges; so this will be something different. For example, according to MIT's FAQ [2], EECS Department will likely continue to be part of School of Engineering, even as it becomes part of Colleg…

I think the NYT headline is at fault here. College of Computing makes more sense than of AI. You can't put CSAIL inside a College of AI, for a start.

Not to mention, the headline implies sending A.I.s to college. Now that would be progress.

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Post by moneil971 »

skeptic_69 wrote: post #96
mattferderer wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MIT was one of the earliest leaders in sharing course material online for free. I wish they would take that $1 billion & invest it in modernizing online education. If you want to be a leader in AI, I argue you should open your doors to as many applicants as possible from all over the world at an affordable price. Discover a better way to improve collaboration & online learning. EdX & Coursera are nice but they seem t…

I think if you want to be a leader in AI research you want to attract and nurture the best graduate students and researchers. I don't really know how much doing good research has to do with good online education. I am sure online education is useful but these issues don't really have much in common.

Agreed, collaborations and publishing innovative research/experimentation go much further than trying to do a course simplified to the level that it can be taken online.

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Post by bitL »

clintonb wrote: post #39
bitL wrote: post #21

Would be cool if they had an online/remote version of it and offered M.S. world-wide. Hey MIT, you up for some large-scale experiments in humanities?

MIT and Harvard are co-founders of edX: https://www.edx.org/ . While not fully online, MIT does allow students who earn a MicroMasters in Supply Chain Management online to apply that course work to the on campus masters program: https://www.edx.org/micromasters/mitx-supply-chain-managemen... .

None of those are accredited programs and employers don't care at all if you have them completed. They are treated on the level of MS certified beginner in something.

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Post by bitL »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #28
bitL wrote: post #21

Would be cool if they had an online/remote version of it and offered M.S. world-wide. Hey MIT, you up for some large-scale experiments in humanities?

I’m guessing they probably don’t want it to become like the Georgia Tech rent-a-MS.

Can you be more specific? What's wrong with GT's OMS CS? I've heard it's tough and students are flooded with projects all the time, and some bleeding edge ones.

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Post by clintonb »

bitL wrote: post #113
clintonb wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MIT and Harvard are co-founders of edX: https://www.edx.org/ . While not fully online, MIT does allow students who earn a MicroMasters in Supply Chain Management online to apply that course work to the on campus masters program: https://www.edx.org/micromasters/mitx-supply-chain-managemen... .

None of those are accredited programs and employers don't care at all if you have them completed. They are treated on the level of MS certified beginner in something.

edX has partnered with employers who have endorsed many of the programs. As for the MIT SCM program, the full masters is accredited.

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Post by WhitneyLand »

clintonb wrote: post #110
mattferderer wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MIT was one of the earliest leaders in sharing course material online for free. I wish they would take that $1 billion & invest it in modernizing online education. If you want to be a leader in AI, I argue you should open your doors to as many applicants as possible from all over the world at an affordable price. Discover a better way to improve collaboration & online learning. EdX & Coursera are nice but they seem t…

MIT and Harvard are co-founders of edX. What about edX is half-hearted? * I'm an MIT alum and former edX engineer.

You can’t get a full undergrad or masters at either school based on your ability.

You can get a “certificate” or some asterisked form of diploma, or you can enter the traditional applicant lotto where a significant number are rejected yet go on to do great work.

The old lotto model is based on the legacy of having enough seats to put students into.

Some newer programs, including one from MIT are experimenting with a scalable online model.

You want a degree from us? Take some classes for a while, prove your ability, you could get in.

The lotto application process besides being limited is imperfect in so many ways. The GMAT if I recall correctly correlates to success only around 65% of the time.

It’s time for these elite schools to decide how important an issue brand dilution (maybe) is for them, and come out and be straight about how much they factor it into their strategy vs. limiting how many diplomas they grant based purely on scalability while maintaining quality.

Ones a logistical problem. One is profit (endownmenrm prestige) motivated.

Pick a side for the future.

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Post by mattferderer »

clintonb wrote: post #110
mattferderer wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MIT was one of the earliest leaders in sharing course material online for free. I wish they would take that $1 billion & invest it in modernizing online education. If you want to be a leader in AI, I argue you should open your doors to as many applicants as possible from all over the world at an affordable price. Discover a better way to improve collaboration & online learning. EdX & Coursera are nice but they seem t…

MIT and Harvard are co-founders of edX. What about edX is half-hearted? * I'm an MIT alum and former edX engineer.

My experience has been watch recorded videos, participate in forums & do assignments. The collaborating part needs to improve in my opinion.

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Post by mattferderer »

WhitneyLand wrote: post #116
clintonb wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MIT and Harvard are co-founders of edX. What about edX is half-hearted? * I'm an MIT alum and former edX engineer.

You can’t get a full undergrad or masters at either school based on your ability. You can get a “certificate” or some asterisked form of diploma, or you can enter the traditional applicant lotto where a significant number are rejected yet go on to do great work. The old lotto model is based on the legacy of having enough seats to put students into. Some newer programs, including one from MIT are experimenting with a…

Also agree with this!!

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Post by mattferderer »

skeptic_69 wrote: post #96
mattferderer wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MIT was one of the earliest leaders in sharing course material online for free. I wish they would take that $1 billion & invest it in modernizing online education. If you want to be a leader in AI, I argue you should open your doors to as many applicants as possible from all over the world at an affordable price. Discover a better way to improve collaboration & online learning. EdX & Coursera are nice but they seem t…

I think if you want to be a leader in AI research you want to attract and nurture the best graduate students and researchers. I don't really know how much doing good research has to do with good online education. I am sure online education is useful but these issues don't really have much in common.

I don't disagree.

I believe that there are a few universities whose education is by far superior. If you can increase the amount of people receiving top education, you can increase those that can then go on to do research.

Getting into MIT is not easy. I imagine it is especially hard for those outside the US. The gatekeeper effect lowers the amount of people who can go on to become graduate students & researchers.

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Post by neolefty »

rasmi wrote: post #6
psykotic wrote: post #3

They could call it the MIT Computer Science & Artificial Intelligence Laboratory.

It is noted in this FAQ that CSAIL will become part of the new college. http://news.mit.edu/2018/faq-mit-stephen-schwarzman-college-...

Oh wow, that article explains it's a much bigger change than the headline says — all of Course 6, plus CSAIL and several others will move into the College.

But it's also not a "College for Artificial Intelligence" — it's a "College of Computing".

> A: The founding of the MIT Schwarzman College of Computing is the most significant structural change since 1950, when MIT established the Sloan School of Management and the School of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences. But this is much more than a restructuring: With this change, MIT seeks to position itself as a key player in the responsible and ethical evolution of technologies that will fundamentally transform society.

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