Air India Express 737 Hits ILS, Damages Wall on Departure, Flies for 4 Hours

Post by inferiorhuman » Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 5:25 AM UTC

InTheArena wrote: post #92

userbinator wrote: post #36

The AVherald article: http://avherald.com/h?article=4bedd321&opt=0 As some of the others have mentioned, the reason the plane survived is likely because that was not a pressurised area. If it had breached the pressure vessel they would've noticed it very quickly (lack of pressurisation).

Not really - If there had a been a gash in pressurization, they would have caught it on the way up. The 737 is a _tank_. It has more or less the same wing load as a F-16. It takes a lot to shake around - it's every bit the 1950s build 707 chassis, and like the old 50s lathe - it can take a hit and keep going.

Post by rb666 » Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 5:40 AM UTC

ksec wrote: post #107

unionemployee wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately don’t have time for a long post at the moment, but as an airline pilot and instructor/check pilot, I can say that extreme incompetence exists in the airline world, especially in Africa, India, SE Asia. There could be some very good reasons that they chose to continue, and often I learn those reasons when the facts are released, discovering that a good decision was made. I’ll be following the investigati…

--I can say that extreme incompetence exists in the airline world, especially in Africa, India, SE Asia including Hong Kong?

Post by fian » Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 5:50 AM UTC

userbinator wrote: post #77

cjbprime wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh, there have been Cessna deaths caused the same way. It's my least favorite failure mode to think about, since there's no obvious way to correct. In a Cessna, best you can do is release the yoke and tiptoe on to the rudders, but professional instructors have still died when this happens to them, since low altitude errors are often not correctable by the time you've lost too much altitude. Usually there ought to be…

In contrast, I can't say I've ever heard of seats in cars having this problem. Is it because plane seats are highly optimised for weight?

Post by radicalbyte » Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 5:55 AM UTC

userbinator wrote: post #77

cjbprime wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ugh, there have been Cessna deaths caused the same way. It's my least favorite failure mode to think about, since there's no obvious way to correct. In a Cessna, best you can do is release the yoke and tiptoe on to the rudders, but professional instructors have still died when this happens to them, since low altitude errors are often not correctable by the time you've lost too much altitude. Usually there ought to be…

In contrast, I can't say I've ever heard of seats in cars having this problem. Is it because plane seats are highly optimised for weight?

Post by manojlds » Sat, Oct 13, 2018, 6:11 AM UTC

unionemployee wrote: post #75

nmstoker wrote: post #66

Question for professional pilots here: does this feel like normal behaviour for a pilot? From my limited experience of pilots, this seems entirely unlike the kind of behaviour you'd expect - they're usually conservative when it comes to safety or is that just the projected image to reassure the public?!

Unfortunately don’t have time for a long post at the moment, but as an airline pilot and instructor/check pilot, I can say that extreme incompetence exists in the airline world, especially in Africa, India, SE Asia. There could be some very good reasons that they chose to continue, and often I learn those reasons when the facts are released, discovering that a good decision was made. I’ll be following the investigati…