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Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by Thimothy »

Seanny123 wrote: post #54
dbingham wrote: post #51

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What about the Remarkable ( https://remarkable.com/ )? It's both got a larger screen and it's supposed to have a vastly improved refresh rate. I haven't tried it, but I'm really really curious about it.

It's beautiful hardware matched with absolutely horrid software. It's Android 4.0, which means literally nothing works. They've tried to fix it with custom apps, but I still can't achieve a decent work-flow and there's no community to make it better. It's actually the worst.

That is awfully wrong, it boots a custom linux-based OS, not Android. You are probably talking about other device (probably the yotaphone).

http://remarkablewiki.com/tech/specs

I use the remarkable for taking notes on online courses, and works wonders.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by some_account »

Next generation Apple MacBook will look like an improved version of this. It will look stunning and be very uncomfortable to use. It will have a single USB-C slot, nothing else. Battery time will be 20 hours since they can put one where the keyboard was before.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by amelius »

awucs wrote: post #103
amelius wrote: post #47

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I want an e-ink display on which I can read scientific papers. Sadly, this isn't possible unless the whole paper fits on the screen, because scrolling on e-ink quickly becomes a real chore due to the refresh rate.

It is likely easiest to parse or even semi-manually reformat papers for a smaller screen.

A tool to do that automatically (layout partitioning) would be a nice project idea.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by chaoticmass »

api wrote: post #77

My speculation for a while is that the touch bar on the Mac is a foot in the door toward eventually replacing the entire bottom surface of the Mac with a haptic virtual keyboard. If it's done very very well it could be awesome: durable, reconfigurable, what's not to love? It would take getting used to but I can't see it being that bad. But it must be done incredibly well or it will suck. Edit: For prolonged work I wo…

Apple has been on a mission to destroy all buttons, so this move wouldn't surprise me at all.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by skinnymuch »

Seanny123 wrote: post #54
dbingham wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the Remarkable ( https://remarkable.com/ )? It's both got a larger screen and it's supposed to have a vastly improved refresh rate. I haven't tried it, but I'm really really curious about it.

It's beautiful hardware matched with absolutely horrid software. It's Android 4.0, which means literally nothing works. They've tried to fix it with custom apps, but I still can't achieve a decent work-flow and there's no community to make it better. It's actually the worst.

Do you have a citation or reference for this? Being stuck on and depending on Android 4 would be a downer but it doesn’t seem to be the case from a cursory look. Or maybe I’m just wishfully hoping it’s not the case.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by Casseres »

Tharkun wrote: post #106

With every iteration, Lenovo seems compelled to further reduce the typing experience. They went from having awesome keyboards to having keyless keyboards. I guess I won't be getting any new Yoga devices then.

I personally think there will be a market for it. People are already somewhat use to "typing" on tablet and phone screens (I make more mistakes using my thumbs on my phone screen than typing normally on the 1st gen Yoga Book).

I like the Yoga Book because it's super-thin, smooth, and has almost no moving parts. I think that's the future on mobile computing.

I do like the physical keyboard on my old Lenovo Yoga (S1?) Laptop though, and I won't be getting rid of that one any time soon.

(I swapped out the trackpad on the Yoga Laptop though, they made a mistake with that one which they've since corrected on later versions.)

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by Casseres »

etatoby wrote: post #64
laurentMiguel wrote: post #4

I'm still consistently enraged at trackpads without physically distinct left and right buttons. No one does them right. Not even Apple.

I have a Yoga P40. It's a great machine. The CPU, RAM, and SSD are very fast: I can compile heavy stuff in a blink. The HDPI display is gorgeous: I can open it 180° or 360° and sketch or paint on it with an active pen. The keyboard is not bad. It's not mechanical, but it doesn't tire my hands as others do. But the one thing that drives me nuts is the buttonless trackpad. This thing is utterly unusable. I've been tryi…

Are you refering to the trackpad that doesn't have buttons, and the whole trackpad moves down when you click?

If so, I have a Lenovo Yoga laptop that did that too. I bought a regular trackpad from the same line off of eBay and swapped it out myself, it was quick and easy. I recommend doing that.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by maxerickson »

sofon wrote: post #44
maxerickson wrote: post #22

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This presumes we can choose the right path without mistakes. It's a silly presumption. And I think it's fine to be frustrated with stupid VC spending, but to the extent it is actually a problem, it shouldn't be sustainable (it would be replaced by less stupid spending if it were truly enjoining advancement).

I agree, we can't proceed without mistakes. But it's incorrect to say that there is no cost, and that we shouldn't minimise mistakes (which is what the comment I was replying to was implying). The VC stuff... I'm not sure that it's not sustainable. The way VCs are selected is not totally efficient (I would say, not even very efficient). More than that, successful exits for VCs don't always mean that a product or serv…

I said more than "not sustainable", I said that if it is really a problem, it wouldn't be sustainable.

If they are wasting tons of money then they probably aren't the thing limiting advancement.

Re: Lenovo’s new Yoga Book replaces the keyboard with an E Ink screen

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Post by setr »

zaarn wrote: post #39
johnchristopher wrote: post #38

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Well. Just flip the laptop, enable the on screen keyboard and wait for the screen hack thingy that will enable the use of the e-ink as the main screen to be released on github.

As someone who had a Kobo EReader a long while ago; coding on eink is painful. The screen latency and constantly flashing will ruin your day even with the joy of being able to code in bright daylight. Unless there is some magic advancements in eink latency that I don't know about...

easy solution: an lcd screen for editing and a e-ink screen for reading

maybe just split the monitor down the middle (open up half your laptop? :-) and drag documents between each for the best [worst?] of both worlds

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