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Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by deong »

bobwaycott wrote: post #88
hellisothers wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does “never be able to run a legally licensed os” mean in this context? I am an iOS engineer and avid photographer: I work on a Hackintosh, I develop my photos on my Hackintosh. I’ve had 0 problems with this setup and it cost me 1/10th as much as a similarly specced Mac. And my “similar” I’m being generous to the Mac because my machine is faster

I’m guessing they’re referring to the fact that Apple’s EULA prohibits—or prohibited at one time, I believe it still does—running macOS on anything other than Apple hardware. Hence, a Hackintosh violates the EULA. Not saying it’s bad or not. I despise EULAs. I think that’s what the parent means, though.

I don't think he's at all concerned about the license. He's just saying most people won't and shouldn't do "real work" on a machine that could break at any point with no possibility for support.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by komali2 »

mbell wrote: post #59
komali2 wrote: post #26

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I can't for the life of me understand why Thinkpad doesn't nuke Mac in sales, other than I guess marketing? Or just maybe people prefer the "simplicity" of MacOS? Because Apple hardware is pretty? I must be neckbearding, because from an objective standpoint, it doesn't make any damn sense. Swappable batteries (on some models), universally better keyboards (at the very least, more robust!), usually far cheaper for far…

> Swappable batteries (on some models), I don't see the advantage, why would I pay the size / weight penalty? I don't use my machine long enough on battery in a single sitting to gain any benefit from extra batteries. > universally better keyboards (at the very least, more robust!), That is not an objective statement, its purely subjective. > usually far cheaper for far better internals, Not really, if you actually b…

> That is not an objective statement

How can you possibly say that when MBP keyboards are failing left and right from single grains of sand, while Lenovo keyboards are being lauded for their indestructibility by multiple hardware ratings sites?

> Hardly anybody does this

You seem to not, but I do regularly. I just last month stuck an SSD into an old laptop (which to be fair you can do for some macbook models), and my desktops regularly get upgraded piecemeal...

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by e12e »

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #101
e12e wrote: post #57

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> Most people invoking a moral imperative to not make hackintoshes are coming from the angle that it’s stealing from Apple. I don't feel a moral obligation not to steal from Apple. I'm not sure I could steal (and use) an amount from them that would impact them at all. I mean even if I stole a classroom full of MacBook pro's in order to give free programming classes - it's not like it would affect Apple in any meaning…

> But you can never do any work on it without risk. What risk is that?

Same as running any other not legally licensed software - a civil suit. And/or "sanctions" if the company who's license your violating has the power to, say, disable a cloud account, developer license etc.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by e12e »

deong wrote: post #111
bobwaycott wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m guessing they’re referring to the fact that Apple’s EULA prohibits—or prohibited at one time, I believe it still does—running macOS on anything other than Apple hardware. Hence, a Hackintosh violates the EULA. Not saying it’s bad or not. I despise EULAs. I think that’s what the parent means, though.

I don't think he's at all concerned about the license. He's just saying most people won't and shouldn't do "real work" on a machine that could break at any point with no possibility for support.

That too.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by komali2 »

pfranz wrote: post #73
komali2 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't for the life of me understand why Thinkpad doesn't nuke Mac in sales, other than I guess marketing? Or just maybe people prefer the "simplicity" of MacOS? Because Apple hardware is pretty? I must be neckbearding, because from an objective standpoint, it doesn't make any damn sense. Swappable batteries (on some models), universally better keyboards (at the very least, more robust!), usually far cheaper for far…

I was seriously looking at Linux laptops last year and ended up begrudgingly getting another Macbook Pro. Here's my perspective when I looked at Thinkpads; There's a series: X, T, P, and A. I really hate when companies do this (I also think Apple does this a bit too much). "Powerful mobile workstations" or "Renowned professional tools" doesn't really help me narrow things down. Trying to seek these out in person, ret…

Right, I see where you're coming from. RE: connectivity, I think I'm misunderstanding you here, but the latest x1s do charge via USB-c, and come with 2 USBc ports and 2 usbA ports... and a headphone jack ;)

I just checked the laptop I'm typing this on to confirm this.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by komali2 »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #77
dkonofalski wrote: post #50

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I run into this all the time with Windows users switching to a Mac. I do a lot of training for new users when it comes to using Macs and the Windows users are always the worst when compared to people learning for the first time because Windows users always want to do it "the Windows way" and so they get frustrated when all their right clicking doesn't pan out. They bought a Mac because they were frustrated by Windows…

> He could not get over the fact that everything was flat and that he couldn't view his folder structure and was so frustrated because he couldn't find anything. It took me days to get the point across to him that a library system was much more powerful than a strict hierarchy because he could tag sounds with multiple keywords instead of just relying on his memory to remember which folder he had put a particular clip…

I think the ideal solution would have been some sort of automatic tagging based off the folder structure. It would have allowed him to keep his previous workflow (maybe? I have never touched itunes) while allowing him to transition to tagging.

I for one love tagging search systems, but still need folder structures for organization. I feel itchy when all my shit is just slopped into a single folder, especially when I need to work in the terminal for something.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by mseidl »

mprev wrote: post #11

I moved to a Mac after a decade of Linux on the desktop. After years of fiddling with drivers, crappy trackpad behaviours and so on, I wanted a computer that got out of my way and just worked. MacOS is far from perfect but it works perfectly with Apple hardware. If I wanted to go back to seeing my operating system as a hobby then Linux would be mostly a better option.

I've never used macos full time. But I'm a developer that's worked with Linux in a professional environment(full time) 12+ years, full time at home(15 years) and dual booted windows/Linux for 23. Linux works really well for me. I do have a windows vm I have for some music instruments software that doesn't work in wine. I'd much rather run a macos vm instead. Windows is so annoying to use. Every time I use it makes me appreciate Linux that much more. But anyways, Linux has largely been smooth sailing for me.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by beagle3 »

organsnyder wrote: post #29
mprev wrote: post #11

I moved to a Mac after a decade of Linux on the desktop. After years of fiddling with drivers, crappy trackpad behaviours and so on, I wanted a computer that got out of my way and just worked. MacOS is far from perfect but it works perfectly with Apple hardware. If I wanted to go back to seeing my operating system as a hobby then Linux would be mostly a better option.

I've been running Linux for about 20 years. My previous two employers furnished me with Macs, so I got used to MacOS over five years of usage. But I still found Linux easier to use: MacOS doesn't "just work" nearly as much as advertised, in my experience (especially for dev workflows). My new company is a Windows shop, and I'm actually finding it surprisingly pleasant—to the point that I'm seriously considering using…

> I see a fair amount of real innovation, and they seem committed to reducing paper cuts.

If you care about privacy and control, Win10 introduces many, many paper cuts.

Re: Why You Should Build a Hackintosh

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Post by upbeatlinux »

djsumdog wrote: post #38
ironjunkie wrote: post #6

I really don't get it. The biggest appeal of Apple is their wonderful hardware. I dislike MacOS and it has been worse over the last years. It seems to me that a Hackintosh is the worst of both worlds. If you spend that much time hacking around the hardware anyways, why not use Linux ?

I agree. I ran a Hackintosh off of a GA-P35 motherboard for years (Snow Leopard/10.6). I then scaled down to leave the country and switched on a real Mac running 10.7. Big fucking mistake. Lion was terrible. No expose. Only one row of workspaces. Mission control. And there was no way to downgrade back to 10.6! Oh and I also made the mistake of going from Final Cut 7 to Final Cut X. To be fair, I did edit two complete…

Almost exact same setup for me GA-P35 + Snow Leopard running tri-boot (Linux, Windows, OSX). I reclaimed the OSX disk as a data-only partition as it became seriously unmaintainable in 10.7. FWIW I've not had any issues upgrading Linux or Windows at major releases.
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