Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by pvg » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 11:36 PM UTC

badsectoracula wrote: post #102

pvg wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because most of us have a hard time contextualizing and assessing the universal importance of our personal formative experiences.

FWIW i'll echo StavrosK experience with PSP (which i used since Windows 3.1 up until PSP7 well into my early 20s... although i distinctly remember disliking it after a specific version - probably 7 - because its circle tool wasn't making perfect circles anymore) and to a lesser extent, WinAmp - and i've tried both again recently. Even though i use GIMP for many years, i still consider the MDI interface, dockable tool…

Oh they were both important programs in their time, I just don't think they were grand monuments to some past golden age of UI/experience. Desktop UI in general was too abstruse for many people to master. Today's mobile touch UI's are much more accessible. PSP and Winamp were pretty sweet if you were a young nerd.

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by ajenner » Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 11:42 PM UTC

I'm another person who regularly uses PSP (version 4 in my case) for most of my day to day bitmap editing tasks - it's fast, stable and has most of the features I need so I've never felt the need to upgrade!

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by simonebrunozzi » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 5:13 AM UTC

I loved, loved, loved Paint Shop Pro. I think my all-time favorite version was 7. Back then (2003-2008) I used to do a lot of web design, and I would do all the graphics with Flash and PSP. I tried Photoshop 2-3 times during these years, and was always surprised to see how terrible the UX was in comparison with PSP.

Good memories.

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by nasredin » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 10:08 AM UTC

pieterr wrote: post #80

callumprentice wrote: post #46

Fascinating article here about Robert - https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mgxa53/how-an-air... TIL: JASC stood for Jets and Software Company.. Adding my name to the list of people who loved Paint Shop Pro and had several amazing interactions with the company.

Primarily the Name JASC was short for “Just Another Software Company” but later it was changed to “Jets and Software Company”. [1] https://www.paintshoppro.com/en/pages/old-brands/jasc/

JASC also made "Animation Shop", a GIF editor.

It won't open modern x264 files, but works fine with uncompressed video.

And the GIF format just won't die thanks to hipsters.

Thank you JASC and hipsters!

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by nasredin » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 10:18 AM UTC

l_t wrote: post #50

modzu wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for offline music collections, winamp is still the best player on windows!

If you haven't seen it, check out foobar2000 [1]. It was created by the same dude that made the original Winamp (which is now owned by Yahoo, IIRC). [1]: https://www.foobar2000.org/

Justin Frankel of NullSoft, WinAmp, WASTE, and now Cockos is a legend. (Also Gnutella IIRC)

He has nothing to do with foobar2000, which BTW has a very poor view of FOSS.

Foobar still can not do proper crossfading on track change!

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by crtasm » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 11:13 AM UTC

My dad came home from work one day and handed me a floppy disk from one of his colleagues. I suddenly had my hands on my first decent image editor and my first digital image of a naked woman.

Never did find out if he knew about the latter.

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by HelloNurse » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 1:27 PM UTC

kweks wrote: post #45

modzu wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for offline music collections, winamp is still the best player on windows!

I found that XMPlay replaces Winamp perfectly. Tiny footprint (less.than 1MB), support for all modern codecs, active development, API and plugin environment, streaming. Combined with the minimal skin, it's my first install on any new windows machine.

In order to play HVSC[1], I switched from XMPlay to the far more heavyweight Foobar2000 because the former had a habit of crashing on files it disliked, losing playlist position.

[1] https://www.hvsc.c64.org/

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by Chronos309 » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 5:08 PM UTC

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #90

zokier wrote: post #31

PSP is imho the prime example of how piratism hurts software industry. The problem was not so much that PSP was pirated, but that Photoshop was pirated. Most people did not need Photoshop, and would have been happy PSP users. But if Photoshop was "free" then it is natural that people gravitated towards the "industry-standard" "professional" tool. Piratism hurts small low-cost hobbyist software most by dislocating the…

> piratism "Piracy" is the usual word.

I like piratism more...but you're right....

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by Chronos309 » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 5:08 PM UTC

thetrumanshow wrote: post #12

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #8

"You are on day 1,439 of your 30-day trial"

Ha, right, no upgrade needed in that version... but eventually I did upgrade and recommend it to others, due to the generosity of the honor system they put in place in that version. Loved the software. Wait, maybe that was Winzip. Both were great.

Around day 2,000 is when the guilt kicked in for me.

Re: Thank You, Robert Voit, Creator of Paint Shop Pro

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Post by subir » Wed, Aug 01, 2018, 5:39 PM UTC

Jasc PSP 5 was the first full-blown image editor I ever used. Those were the days when I was taking baby steps with web design. Absolutely loved the no-nonsense, workflow. Not to mention, it seemed to pack every feature imaginable in a small, cheap package!