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Cognitive Distortions of People Who Get Stuff Done (2012) [pdf]

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Does that make Nike IBM's polar opposite, slogan-wise?

There is probably a game buried here, to find two company slogans which contradict each other.

Not really a contradiction, but I immediately thought of the following juxtaposition:

U.S. Army: "An Army of One"

U.S. Marine Corps: "For Our Nation, For Us All"

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By what measure do the people studied ‘get stuff done’? By virtue of being a founder? Is this an attempt to shed light on productivity or a backhanded way to compliment the Silicon Valley crowd? Generally you get things done by being dedicated and having the ability to deliver, rather than having a distorted vision of reality.

All the people I know who are extremely productive (moms of 7, doctors, athletes) share exactly zero of that SV narcissist list. This is really low-quality content with a nonsensical title.

None of the doctors or athletes you are thinking of believe in personal exceptionalism? That’s a pretty classic characteristic of doctors and athletes.

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Is the actual talk available? It seems like it would be interesting, but this is mostly bullet points on slides; hard to glean any real information or know what the author intends.

see https://www.harrisonmetal.com/library/the-cognitive-distorti...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Statins? Hypertensive meditations? Anxiolytics? Prophylaxis in general?

Are those not addressing states of disease?

They can be used to treat disease, but are often used to prevent disease. Statins in particular are used to prevent cardiovascular disease from developing.

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The Big Five * Personal exceptionalism * Dichotomous thinking * Correct overgeneralization * Blank canvas thinking * Schumpeterianism (creative destruction) i don't endorse the guy and didn't vote for him, but, um, this reminds me of Trump. i mean, how can we assess any person who actually succeeded at a goal that thousands of others wanted but failed to achieve? i don't know. how did this guy avoid losing? it's just…

Part of it has to do with the electoral college as well. He lost by three million votes or 2.1% margin - another is that negative factors piled onto her from the Benghazi mudslinging, the timing of the reopening of the investigation, the disadvantage after a party has the presidency for two terms straight, to a general lack of charisma and ability to inspire people. "I'm with her." just says to support her not why you should do so - even by shallow soundbite standards. He won at a handicap in addition to appealing the base interests of the worst people.

The first two I can see but certainly not the last three.

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He calls it cognitive distortions but doesn't seem to offer any proof that their perceptions are wrong. It is possible they were provided in the actual content as opposed to the power-points to PDF. An anorexic convinced that they are fat when they are 75 pounds and their body is falling apart from lack of calories is a distortion. These paradigms don't seem to fit the definition. There is always the possibility that these 'distortions' are in fact objectively correct. The criticism of creative destruction in particular - sure it may have costs but is not doing so any better? Thinking that preserving the status quo at the cost of advancement is in itself a distortion arguably.

Furthermore there is the question does it count as a distortion if they are self-aware that these are all heuristics and adjusting accordingly?

Defining 'sanity' without reference to reality itself is ironically downright insane. Like Pythagorians reacting so negatively to discovering irrational numbers undeniably exist.

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By having excellent social support structures, many resources, above average ability and domain knowledge, a sense of purpose in your work and being free of mental health issues.

Regarding your last point, these actually all sound like symptoms of hypomania.

Really? How?

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He calls it cognitive distortions but doesn't seem to offer any proof that their perceptions are wrong. It is possible they were provided in the actual content as opposed to the power-points to PDF. An anorexic convinced that they are fat when they are 75 pounds and their body is falling apart from lack of calories is a distortion. These paradigms don't seem to fit the definition. There is always the possibility that…

> The criticism of creative destruction in particular - sure it may have costs but is not doing so any better? Thinking that preserving the status quo at the cost of advancement is in itself a distortion arguably.

That criticism is not even present in the slides. It just says "heartlessness, alienation." You may believe those risks to be justified, but getting defensive about as if these are not real risks is denying the real world data, which coincidentally is another criticism mentioned.

> Defining 'sanity' without reference to reality itself is ironically downright insane.

The word 'sanity' is not mentioned in any of these slides. You are getting defensive over non-existent accusations and in the process are managing to almost understand what 'distortion' means in this context but then somehow get it completely wrong.

All of these five things are thought processes. They can be right some of the time. They can be right most of the time. What defines them as a "distortion" is whether they are the default mode of interpretation of the world all of the time, regardless of what the reality of the situation is. The word is not chosen as a derision - see also déformation professionnelle[0].

A more appropriate framing of the anorexia comparison would be "always feeling that one is fat, regardless of actual weight." Focusing only on the moment in which someone is actually underweight but still feeling fat is both getting it and missing the point at the same time.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C3%A9formation_professionnel...

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