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Are there solid Slack-style self-hosted alternatives? (The gitlab of the slack world, to be clear.)
Atlassian, the folks behind bitbucket, jira, and (now) trello have a self hosted product: https://www.atlassian.com/software/hipchat They also have a Slack alternative, called Stride.
Thats the problem without self-hosting your essential stuff.
Thats the problem without self-hosting your essential stuff.
- Scheduled electrical maintenance that facilities manager failed to disclose (even though they knew about it for weeks).
- Emergency power-down because two of the four air conditioners failed at the same time.
- Someone accidentally powered off the VM.
I'd much rather have an hour long outage here and there than incur the cost of defending against these circumstances (and still have it go down for some new unforeseen reason).
Previous outages: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16108912 - 5 months ago (longer discussion) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15597461 - 7 months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15597431 - 8 months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13811815 - 1 year ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10616743 - 3 years ago
[edit] note that including this outage, they are reporting to have missed their monthly uptime guarantee 3 months in a row.
You know how much of the community uses one messaging system when 15 minutes after it going down, it has over 40 points on the front page! This says a lot about how it's a single point of failure in modern company comms. It's even worrying to think about how some users probably have production-dependent (dare I postulate it) workflows in Slack that get crippled by its outage... ITT: Chat about decentralisation that w…
It's times like this I wish there was a solid decentralized standard to pick from, but there's no clear choice between XMPP and Matrix.
IRC had uptime in the scale of decades. Why are our 2018 solutions so fragile?
Native emoji support, aesthetically pleasing front-ends, and clear product direction are some of the main positives I see, even if the combination of php on the backend and electron on the frontend aren't the most sophisticated technical components in history. I prefer decentralized and open things, but a cohesive vision can sometimes provide a better user experience across a more restricted set of functionality than…
Are there solid Slack-style self-hosted alternatives? (The gitlab of the slack world, to be clear.)
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Irc left out federation when the spec was crafted in 1984. It was deemed to bandwidth heavy. Jabber/xmpp was a good step in the right direction. Too bad it overused plugins and bad extensions and XML abuse. Would have been loads better had they though far enough in advance.
It's not federated, but it is distributed and fault tolerant. The protocol is open and widely implemented and the implementations are mature and stable.