>Pointing out facts (which you go on to agree with) is the stupidest comment you've seen on HN?

My apologies for the misunderstanding, I was referring to the original comment in which the US was the savior of the Iraqi people.

>And, you know, "people" speak out against everything so that's not really a valid point -- "unnamed people said UN sanctions against Iraq were a war crime, news at 11..."

This article has some names of notable critics, searchable as well.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2003/07/27/magazine/were-sanction...

>I was just talking about my personal experience dealing with the good people of Iraq during and after the second invasion

You are an American, perhaps ex military? My only explanation for this is that the people who talk to you on the subject are self selecting, giving you a biased view of the situation. I can certainly say that what you propose is a narrative that even some of the most ardent war hawks from the bush era wouldn't claim.

It's not a pointless discussion to me. It can be useful to someone reading this thread in the future to have different viewpoints and decide who they agree with.