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Post by ianai » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 1:17 PM UTC

simongray wrote: post #98

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I’m curious, if depression doesn’t have some basis in chemical roots, then why is it often hereditary? Like other forms of mental illness which are chemical and hereditary, depression also exhibits these characteristics.

The current mainstream view is that depression is partly physical, so you're not wrong. (edited for clarity) Some say that depression is a chemical imbalance, but this is not a mainstream view any longer (I think, although it's often mentioned in comments on the Internet), although treatment is still very much based on chemicals like SSRI drugs, which have very little proven effect, require constant upping of dosages…

Post by oldsklgdfth » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 1:20 PM UTC

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>, I can only hope that people as a whole start seeing it as a complex issue and the stigma of mental issues and stress can lessen so that people can get help Possibly inappropriate - but why do people immediately link suicide and mental illness? Why do we stand in judgement declaring it wrong to decide ones own fate? Am I not the master of my own existence and do I not have the right to make a decision on it without…

I see what you're getting at, but I think the reason that suicide is linked with mental illness is because it goes against our very nature as living beings. If I recall correctly, a majority of people who have 'failed' suicide (for lack of a better term) have stated that they immediately regretted attempting once it hits the point of no return. This is just an assumption, but I think the will to live greatly outweigh…

Post by turingcompeteme » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 1:22 PM UTC

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That whole "chemical imbalance" thing is a myth.

“Rather than some embarrassingly reductionist, one-deficiency-one-illness-one-pill model of mental illness, contemporary exploration of human behavior has demonstrated that we may know less than we ever thought we did. And that what we do know about root causes of mental illness seems to have more to do with the concept of evolutionary mismatch than with genes and chemical deficiencies.” http://kellybroganmd.com/depr…

Post by oldsklgdfth » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 1:23 PM UTC

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I don't believe there is a valid rational reason to justify suicide. But I'm open to being wrong. This have been explored philosophically in the school of existentialism, see Camus and his work. EDIT: i guess a valid reason is significant physical pain and suffering that has no hope of being cured.

That’s one point I have personally experienced. I’ve faced the reality of 30-31 migraines per 31 days a month. Luckily medical treatment is helping cut that number back significantly (though every day is a careful balance). But those medical treatments have been around less than 10 years. There’s even a class of headache, cluster headaches, which are also known as suicide headaches. Not every chronic pain can be dial…

Post by jrs95 » Fri, Jun 08, 2018, 1:25 PM UTC

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Yup. Just to get rich selling pills that barely make a difference. As someone who’s probably had a prescription for every major anti-depressant, the only difference I never noticed from taking them is that my dick didn’t work. Not saying that depression isn’t a serious issue and that it can just be “thought away” though. But the drugs are really only helpful to some people, and there’s not much evidence to substantia…

> there’s not much evidence to substantiate that this is just a chemical problem > we aren’t dealing with any of the underlying social problems that probably play a much larger part. I assume your concern for evidence applies to your pet theory as well, are you able to share any?