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It was Alinsky who instructed people on how to personalize politics. It is thus a tactic of the left. If conservatives are finally fighting back, that is to their credit.
Why are people here so pro-net neutrality? I don't have NN in Europe and I'm happy: because of it, I enjoy zero-rated services at a fair price.
The USA is big. Like, really fucking big. As a result running an ISP, wired or cellular, has an extremely high cost to entry. As a result of that, most people’s choices for internet provider is precisely limited to one choice, the local telco monopoly. No net neutrality means that ISP ca. Do whatever they want and get away with it because what are you going to do? Send a sternly written letter?
So? Most of that is empty space nobody is trying to serve. The key metric is population density, which is comparable between urban areas in Europe and the US. The size of the US has nothing to do with lack of ISP choice, as evidenced by the fact that the same problem doesn't occur in countries with lower population densities than the US (33.8 people per km²) such as Sweden (21.5), Finland (16.2), Norway (13.4) or Australia (3.1).
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Veterinary care. Cheap, quick, high quality...free market and unregulated
How is it unregulated? People have been sent to jail in US for practicing veterinary medicine improperly.
Ok, "virutally unregulated compared to human health care". That's what I meant.
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First of all, the government has its hands in almost everything, so any list small enough to fit into a hacker news comment is necessarily going to be "cherry picked". I'm not one of those people who thinks we don't need any regulations. I think they need to be a last-resort when everything else has been tried. Everything else has not been tried here. I mean, 5G and the SpaceX satellite internet plan are right around…
> I think they need to be a last-resort when everything else has been tried. Problem is you can always always cry that not everything has been tried and perpetually put off regulation until we try this or that or this again (it might work because things are slightly different now). It's also easy to argue that existing regulations were put in place by morons who had no reason to regulate anything, and ignore all the…
I can already hear your objections..."But there's some regulation in all of those!"
Yes, but it's much less than in other fields. The fact that the government is so pervasive that it's very hard to find an example of a truly free market is not an argument against a free market.
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I don't think the FDA has turned healthcare into a boondoggle, especially since incidents like Thalidomide have revealed why the pharma industry must follow a compliance framework for R&D. I don't think the USDA has turned agriculture or consumer food into a boondoggle. The Jungle is still a gripping read today, because the conditions of unregulated meatpacking factories were unbelievably grotesque, beyond the absolu…
If you want to see what pharmaceuticals would look like without the FDA, look at the "dietary supplements" industry, which is a drug industry that the FDA is explicitly prohibited from regulating, except in the most narrow truth-in-advertising and product-safety areas. The companies can't be bothered to actually put their claimed active ingredients in their products.
How many people die every year from dietary supplements? Not many.
It's not the governments job to regulate quality. The free market is doing that just fine with sites like labdoor.com
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I don't believe that anyone here, without looking it up, could explain what exactly "net neutrality" means, without falling back on talking points and vague aspirational language, rather than what actually is written in the regulations. For starters, the FCC did an end run around Congress because they couldn't get Congress to pass it, so they had to take previous regulations intended for telephone service and cram a…
I think most folks here (and who care elsewhere) get the gist and impact of net neutrality. There's quite a few discussions that seem to illustrate their knowledge pretty clearly. You just have to read them. I mean can you honestly recite the regulations? Would that disqualify your opposition to it? The gist of your position seems to be the supporters are dumb and you generally don't like government regulation .... a…
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Net neutrality is literally constraint on how data passing through networks can be routed and shaped. It’s exactly “constraining the Internet”. It’s not “freedom” in any shape or matter. Freedom is never constraint on others. It’s a popular constraint, and people just happen to confuse and conflate “things I like/feel positivity about” and “freedom”. It’s controversial to say here but I don’t think it gets discussed…
This doesn't make sense. Why would the ISP's want to throttle the websites that their customers are using? Even with the lack of ISP competition, pissing off your users that much seems like a bad strategy. And they can already throttle users based on bandwidth used, how would eliminating net neutrality help them achieve this goal. I predict the ISP's selling a default throttled connection to everything, and then for…
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It is government controlling the internet. It's the extent and who that is different. In this case, it's only forcing a fair playing field. Kinda like highways being public vs. toll instead of telling you what cars you are and are not allowed to drive. I'd like a "free" internet, but I still have to admit it's going to cost someone else's "freedom".
So we can summarize saying it's customers freedom against ISP freedom.
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To Trump's credit, I believe he would sign the bill. He mostly cares about winning and looking good. Also, he gives people what they want. If both houses pass the bill; "You wanted net neutrality? We now have the best net neutrality in the history of the internet. We rolled back Obama's sick and dying internet, Obama killed the internet did you know that folks?, and now we have the best most free internet EVER. Perio…
What? He is literally the person who appointed the guy who made this happen. While Trump is erratic, so no one can rule out a complete 180 at any moment, to say that is "to his credit" is ridiculous.
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If you want to see what pharmaceuticals would look like without the FDA, look at the "dietary supplements" industry, which is a drug industry that the FDA is explicitly prohibited from regulating, except in the most narrow truth-in-advertising and product-safety areas. The companies can't be bothered to actually put their claimed active ingredients in their products.
Great, and I'll be the first person arguing against FDA regulation of dietary supplements. How many people die every year from dietary supplements? Not many. It's not the governments job to regulate quality. The free market is doing that just fine with sites like labdoor.com