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YouTube Kids Is Going to Release a Whitelisted, Non-Algorithmic Version of App

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Post by gowld »

mayniac wrote: post #37
borne0 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that's over thinking it a bit, youtube algos are easy to manipulate and a single thread on 4chan can create a fair bit of weird media, for the explicit intent of creating weird media.

I do prefer the 4chan theory, since it satisfies Occam's Razor. That said, the frequency of new videos from multiple channels dedicated to nothing but these videos, as well as the monetisation, makes it unlikely. Also considering the number of subscribers the subreddit has I'm sure that if there were any new 4chan threads suggesting people make those videos it would've been spotted. It's honestly the sheer number of…

Computers are very good at taking something they've done once, and doing is a billion times.

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Post by gowld »

jasonkostempski wrote: post #35

One step closer to the only thing I ever wanted, an app that lets me whitelist the channels. Without having to create an account too. The list will be small enough to store locally and pass with every list request. I never want to see another video about colors wrapped in bible verses for the rest of my life.

Like a Google Reader for videos!

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Post by gowld »

josteink wrote: post #56

TIL there is a YouTube kids service/app. Which I can’t use because of my IP-address. Again. I guess for us outside the US we’ll just have to wait another 5 years for google to flip the switch to make this worldwide. Again. At stuff like, Google really systematically sucks.

It's an opportunity for you to build a video service for your country.

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Post by gowld »

AndrewOMartin wrote: post #63

Who do you trust to decide what your kid should be able to see? Human editorial is certainly better than algorithm editorial, and YouTube Kids was a nightmare so I'm not complaining, but I'm sure the value judgements of a lot of respectable YouTube employees are very different to mine. Are Christian and Islamic and Scientologist morality tales all acceptable or not? What about science and engineering videos with high…

Anything not lambasted on the front page of HuffPo is acceptable.

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Post by iamdave »

gowld wrote: post #110
djrogers wrote: post #85

I don’t understand why YT a kids isn’t a completely parent controlled thing. I’d like to be able to simply choose the channels that my kids can watch any time, and let’s leave it at that. Why does this not exist?

Because in the modern walled garden, all decisions must be made by the benevolent corporation for benefit of the consumer. We're paid to think so you don't have to!

One of my chief complaints about social media once we entered the age of Facebook was "I miss being able to use the platform on my terms". Stop telling me I should check out this, or react to that, or signal my approval to the other just because my friends did. Remember on Myspace how if you wanted the world's ugliest page with marquee animated gifs of a 3D baby dancing across the banner...YOU COULD. Nobody was stopping you. Myspace gave you the canvass, and said "go have fun, add a few friends, talk about concerts".

If myspace gave us the canvas and an unlimited selection of paint colors, Facebook gave us a color by numbers coloring book and four pre-approved shades of blue, along with a small static shock whenever a color went over the line.

And you know what? As a guy with no kids If it takes parents getting mad at YouTube to finally get some sort of critical mass on giving more control to the end user how they interact with the platform (aside from obvious outliers like malicious/offensive/illegal content), I'm all about it.

I wish platforms would realize this. We're glad to use the platforms, just stop trying to herd us into doing it the way you want.

Maybe I'm looking at too rosy of an ideal, here though.

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Post by Nition »

djrogers wrote: post #85

I don’t understand why YT a kids isn’t a completely parent controlled thing. I’d like to be able to simply choose the channels that my kids can watch any time, and let’s leave it at that. Why does this not exist?

There's still a YouTube API right? Good opportunity for a third-party app maybe?

I see one YouTube Whitelist app on the Play store already but it's got in-app purchases and just generally doesn't look that great.

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Post by tree_of_item »

a1369209993 wrote: post #99

If anyone else is apalled by the various parents talking about censoring their children's video/internet access and everyone just going along with it: you're not alone. I can't offer anything else encouraging, but at least know that you're not the only person in the world that recognizes this as child abuse.

"Censoring" these videos is child abuse? Because there are quite a few people in this thread who say allowing your children to view these generative videos with dark themes is child abuse.

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Post by fma »

rasz wrote: post #46
fma wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife's business has a TV that plays some videos from YouTube of her company in the waiting room. At the end of the Playlist pops up videos from competitors. In the past it would autoplay those and it was embarassing but at least I turned that off. She pays for YouTube Red. There is no way for YouTube to not autosuggest, or to repeat the videos in a Playlist over and over. I decided for her to use YouTube because o…

Its trivial on the desktop with one of the extensions/userscripts, both hiding suggestions and autoplaying what you select.

Yes, actually you can do it on a computer easily. You can even use like ListenOnRepeat.com and control the playlist. The problem is when she opens her retail location she wants to do it from the app on the tv, or app on her phone and do a Chromecast.

I'd rather not install a computer there just to show some videos...and I don't know why YouTube forces the suggested videos to paying customers without giving an option to turn it off.

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Post by fma »

garmaine wrote: post #81
fma wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife's business has a TV that plays some videos from YouTube of her company in the waiting room. At the end of the Playlist pops up videos from competitors. In the past it would autoplay those and it was embarassing but at least I turned that off. She pays for YouTube Red. There is no way for YouTube to not autosuggest, or to repeat the videos in a Playlist over and over. I decided for her to use YouTube because o…

Upload to YouTube for the captions, then youtube-dl to a VLC playlist or something? (Or to be a bit more pro, snag the captions from the download and remix them into the original source.)

Yeah...I may just suck it up and create the captions myself, put the videos on USB and play it through USB. We don't need to mess with YouTube and we can cancel the Youtube Red account, and be 100% accurate on the closed captions. That was my ultimate solution, just need to find the time.
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