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Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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I don't think the court ended up considering the main point, which is that Apple had no evidence that H2F's units specifically were fake.

Wait a sec... you cited this case. If it doesn't actually address your main point then why reference it? You're making pretty strong claims but are providing links to back it up that don't actually back it up. I don't see why anyone would take what you're saying seriously.

It shows Apple making an IP claim containing false allegations.

Like I said, the fact that they weren’t found to be legally liable for that is not relevant to the point I’m making, which is that they lied in an IP claim. Apple retracted the claim, as mentioned in the original complaint. They may have immunity under free speech doctrines for lying, but that doesn’t change the fact that they lied.

To be clear, the court didn’t make a decision either way on whether Apple lied. I am saying that they lied, based on the fact that they filed a complaint without basis or with flimsy basis (reviews that were not tied to a seller), and that I know of several other instances of Apple doing the exact same thing, I know some people were considering a class action against Apple for this last year. It’s just really hard and expensive to go up against Apple or any large company in court, so they are getting away with it.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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post #110
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think the court ended up considering the main point, which is that Apple had no evidence that H2F's units specifically were fake.

Wait a sec... you cited this case. If it doesn't actually address your main point then why reference it? You're making pretty strong claims but are providing links to back it up that don't actually back it up. I don't see why anyone would take what you're saying seriously.

Given that immunity doctrine, there’s a really high bar to proving liability. There’s enough facts there to determine that Apple had no reasonable basis for the claim.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Practically speaking, yes. But these drivers would never be merged into the mainline kernel as the source code was obtained illegally. Writing a Linux driver from scratch on the basis if this code would still mean huge legal problems for the Linux kernel.

Surely this code would be useful to a clean room design though? I.E. someone looks at the leaked code and writes a specification, then posts/shares that spec, and another person or team uses the spec to write a compatible driver without having looked at the leaked source code.

I don't think so. The only thing you're allowed to do is stuff like Wireshark, where you observe the behavior and not the actual code.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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Surely this code would be useful to a clean room design though? I.E. someone looks at the leaked code and writes a specification, then posts/shares that spec, and another person or team uses the spec to write a compatible driver without having looked at the leaked source code.

I don't think so. The only thing you're allowed to do is stuff like Wireshark, where you observe the behavior and not the actual code.

Pretty sure that's not true -- I believe you just have to make sure that only a spec gets "thrown over the wall", and no descriptions of implementation or architecture.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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From the source_layout.txt in /docs: ... /arch/arm ARM-specific code. /docs Optimisim. /drivers Portable drivers and driver infrastructure. ... There's more documentation in this folder than most projects have :)

From the IO Spreadsheet Standard document (in /docs): "This document describes the format of the I/O Spreadsheet for iOS Products. (...) The I/O spreadsheet shall be sheet in an Excel workbook." Numbers? Nope, Excel.

I've tried to use Numbers for technical stuff and found it too unreliable. A big surprise was when I filtered the spreadsheet by column values so only a subset of rows were visible, then selected a range of rows in that subset and deleted them. When I disabled the filtering I found that it also deleted rows in that range that were hidden.

Re: Key iPhone Source Code Gets Posted Online

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The author of the quote may have meant biggest leak in Apple's history, which it may well be. As for biggest leak in history, maybe the shadow brokers leak of all those NSA tools? I'm not sure if anything huge resulted from the Win2k leak but I'm not too informed about it.

1989, "Nu Prometheus League", I believe the Macintosh ROM's source was leaked: http://www.nytimes.com/1989/11/20/business/us-inquiry-into-t...

I take it this isn't really floating around out there. :(
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