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Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by JustSomeNobody » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:41 PM UTC

tlrobinson wrote: post #48

pavel_lishin wrote: post #42

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Yup, another father here: I'd love an always-on camera that I can tell to save the last 30 seconds of playback. There are a lot of moments I'd love to have on video or camera that are there-and-gone - even if I had my phone in my pocket, by the time I pulled it out, it would be too late.

GoPros (and other action cameras, I assume) have a feature like that. But please don't be "that guy" constantly recording unwilling subjects (except in your own home, of course)

> ... unwilling subjects (except in your own home, of course)

Not even.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by nradov » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:53 PM UTC

I think there's definitely a market for endurance athletes. Runners and cyclists would like to see time, speed, distance, cadence, power output, navigation, etc without having to look down at a wristwatch or bike computer. Those people are accustomed to spending a lot on sports equipment. There are existing products like the Everysight Raptor and Garmin Varia View but they're bulky or goofy looking or obstruct vision, so Intel has plenty of space to offer a better alternative.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by ryanpetrich » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:55 PM UTC

Uhhrrr wrote: post #91

This will lead to all glasses wearers being treated with suspicion, until such time as cameras are also readily available in shirt buttons and everything else. At that point recording will become unavoidable and therefore normalized.

The device under discussion does not have a camera.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by dlokshin » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:56 PM UTC

Interesting marketing choice that all of the images are of the actual glasses, and none of the images are of what your eyes see.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by spike021 » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 5:58 PM UTC

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #108

spike021 wrote: post #98

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Those are fine two cents for you, but I don't know why it should matter that you mention them in this thread. The parent comment clearly shows he/she appreciates the ability to take photos/videos at his/her leisure. If that works for them then why bring your opinion to the conversation?

Conversation - the informal exchange of ideas by spoken words. Opinions are ideas [0]. > ... but I don't know why it should matter that you mention them in this thread. Is this not an opinion? [0] loosely.

I can understand that. I just think it was a case of the parent comment already having a method/process that worked for them. I'd say there are a couple of different schools of thought when it comes to committing things to memory nowadays (more photos or more living in the moments) and if one works for someone then it's a bit unnecessary for someone else to come in and simply say that the other way works better for them.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by syshum » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 6:00 PM UTC

grzm wrote: post #97

syshum wrote: post #79

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Most people on HN believe that technology will only ever improve society, with very limited negative effects that can be mitigated or eliminated with more technology. Over all they see any negative effects (both current and future) caused by technological advancement to be a technological problem that can be eliminated In their minds the dystopian worlds depicted in scifi and fantasy just simply can not happen, "we w…

> "Most people on HN believe that technology will only ever improve society, with very limited negative effects that can be mitigated or eliminated with more technology." I think it's safe to say that there are people who are enthusiastic about the promises of technology and those who are concerned about how it can be used, and likely significant overlap of those two groups. The likelihood of making an error when mak…

>>Dig in. Share specific thoughts or concerns you have. Help move the conversation in a constructive direction.

I have, most substantive comments get higher levels of down votes so why bother.

HN has become a echo chamber and if you push to hard against the echo chamber you just get banned.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by manmal » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 6:05 PM UTC

I‘m not sure I would want these. Shining a laser (even though it will be safe and well tested) right into my eyes seems a bit.. risky. I presume the laser will be controlled by its own microcontroller, well tested and „unhackable“.. but still, if we can learn anything from Spectre, it’s that inconspicuous system parts can open a security hole. Burning holes into a retina is quickly done given the right amount of power.

There’s also the thing that blue light accelerates retina cell death.. I‘d rather wait for some long term studies before putting these on.

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by jpm_sd » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 6:07 PM UTC

mjlangiii wrote: post #92

nogridbag wrote: post #37

Despite all the negativity around Google Glasses' camera, that was actually the best feature. You could really capture some great moments directly from your eye's perspective at the wink of an eye. My mother recently passed and out of all the photos and videos, my favorite was a 10 second video of me handing her flowers shot from Google Glasses. It looks like she's staring right back into my soul. I have a three mont…

Just my two cents; I'm a father of 4 and I'm okay with not capturing those moments on film. And I mean that in two senses. One, I'm fine using my very imperfect memory to recall special moments and two, because of the logistical problems with grabbing the camera I'm not willing to risk missing out being fully in the moment. The occasionally photograph from an event or time period seems sufficient to conjure up the fe…

I completely agree (father of 3, here). It's just not that important to record these things. Live in the moment!

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by gpm » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 6:09 PM UTC

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #106

gpm wrote: post #96

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The proposal wasn't dragnet surveillance. It was everyone walking around with a rolling 30-second video buffer that they can chose to save. There is no giant record for someone to datamine. Not living in the UK doesn't change much, it goes from "in public I'm always possibly on camera" to "in public I'm always possibly on camera" everywhere, not just the Uk. My ability to influence society with a camera is far beyond…

>There is no giant record for someone to datamine. It's laughable to think there won't be cloud integration. Having automatic or one click upload is probably one of the most powerful features. People want to be able to post stuff on snapchat, store it in drive/dropbox, etc. The data sets will be mined just like existing social media is mined. >Not living in the UK doesn't change much, it goes from "in public I'm alwa…

> It's laughable to think there won't be cloud integration.

Doesn't matter if there is cloud integration, there won't be constant livestreaming simply due to bandwidth constraints. Occasional 30 second segments is not dragnet surveillance or substantially worse than what is currently available. People aren't going to be randomly uploading themselves walking down the street - because why would they. The location data android uploads by default is far worse.

> Same general idea, multiple implementations. All the things you listed are about on the same order.

A cop not beating someone up, illegally searching your car, illegally fining you, etc is not on the "same order" as "a DMV worker being nicer".

Stopping criminal behaviour is not on the same order as "a DMV worker being nicer".

Re: Intel made smart glasses that look normal

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Post by com2kid » Mon, Feb 05, 2018, 6:10 PM UTC

maltalex wrote: post #105

konart wrote: post #84

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>Would you love that camera if it was pointed at you? I'm pretty sure humanity is already past the point where this question is timely. We have many cameras watching us all day long and ten years from now there will be even more. For what it's worth, maybe this will finally teach people to thing before they act.

> I'm pretty sure humanity is already past the point where this question is timely. We have many cameras watching us all day long and ten years from now there will be even more. Really? Do you have cameras looking at you all day at work? Or at home, while interacting with your family? I hope not. I also hope that you'd object to any attempts to put such a device. It's true that society by and large accepts CCTV camer…

> Do you have cameras looking at you all day at work?

Anyone who works in an office complex does. Anyone who works in a retail store does. Bus drivers have cameras recording the entire time the bus engine is on.

Aside from a farmer in a field, I'm hard pressed to think of a job that doesn't take place under a security camera. Taxi Driver, delivery agents, street food vendors, and people who work at home remotely.