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2018 Stellar roadmap

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Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#111
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From few days ago: "PSA: Check your inbox for email from stellar.org, you may be sitting on $ " - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16109292

Thanks for this. I had bought a couple of bitcoins in 2014 just for kicks and don't even remember signing up for Stellar- even though I recently bought some on the market. Saw this message and checked my email and lo and behold- You've got Stellar. Recovering and upgrading was a breeze. I'm $3600 richer.

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#112

I signed up for stellar when it was first announced and have about $1000 of stellar. Despite a whole bunch of emails, I'm still unable to access my account. Anyone know who else I could contact?

I contacted support after finding an old email from the ICO a few years ago. They got me access to my account within a couple of days.

https://launch.stellar.org/#/login

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

except amazon stock represents ownership of a corporation with assets that have value.

But Amazon's value is not based on it's assets. What is the value of AWS? Is it the physical servers and data-centers? Or is it the knowledge and systems which make it all operational. If you can accept the later is where the real value is, eventually you're going to get to the point where you see the REAL value is in putting these pieces together into a system where a customer can exchange $$ for the value being cre…

These are common misconceptions from speculators.

1. Crypto-assets like Bitcoin/Ethereum/Steller/Ripple, etc, are created simply by typing some numbers into a piece of software. There's no underlying value, it's a number in a database.

2. Stocks have measurable value, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price%E2%80%93earnings_ratio

3. Anytime someone sells a Bitcoin or whatevercoin it requires a buyer. Similar to baseball cards, beanie babies, or other artifitially scarce yet easy to produce asset, the market is subject to supply and demand. In the case of cryptocoins, the supply is created and distributed to a small group of users who horde it, in the hope that new users will come in and purchase the coins for more than it cost to create them. This is a hallmark of a typical pyramid scam, which collapses once no more investors can be found, leaving the late adopters holding now worthless "coins".

4. Stocks in Amazon and businesses grant you legal rights, and if the company goes bankrupt you are entitled to compensation from their assets.

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#114
post #4

From few days ago: "PSA: Check your inbox for email from stellar.org, you may be sitting on $ " - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16109292

Thank you for this comment. I checked my email, found out I had 40K, and cashed out half.

We live in strange times.

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The vast majority of people who have been involved are way ahead. Strong disagree :( Cryptocurrency investment is speculation in a zero-sum game. Every dollar someone pulls out of the system in profit required someone else to put a dollar in. All those people who sold bitcoin at $19k could do so because there were buyers. Every single one of those buyers lost. Cryptocurrencies are not shares in a corporation or bon…

> All those people who sold bitcoin at $19k could do so because there were buyers. Every single one of those buyers lost. Only if they sold. Otherwise they might just wait until the price climbs back.

The price still doesn't change unless new money enters, though.

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#116
post #4

From few days ago: "PSA: Check your inbox for email from stellar.org, you may be sitting on $ " - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16109292

My account was corrupted during the migration from STL -> XLM. Not even my recovery code works. Multiple support emails with Stellar and no dice being able to access my XLM :( .

Same thing here :-(

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#117

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It was 6000 in the original airdrop, and after that there was an airdrop against bitcoin addresses in a proportional fashion (only if you chose to claim them, if i am recalling correctly.)

There was one where you signed up with Facebook and got 5k too. I got quite a chunk of change by getting all my friends to log me in with their accounts.

There was a guy who scripted himself a huge number of the facebook giveaway airdrop. I have vague recollections of his hoard being invalidated via a hard fork or some other method!

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

except amazon stock represents ownership of a corporation with assets that have value.

But Amazon's value is not based on it's assets. What is the value of AWS? Is it the physical servers and data-centers? Or is it the knowledge and systems which make it all operational. If you can accept the later is where the real value is, eventually you're going to get to the point where you see the REAL value is in putting these pieces together into a system where a customer can exchange $$ for the value being cre…

Software and intellectual property is an asset.

Re: 2018 Stellar roadmap

#120

Two days ago, Stripe announced they were dropping Bitcoin. And now Stellar (A Stripe-seeded company) announces their 2018 plans. Good job on the guy that saw it coming in HN comments ! Note: I'm not bashing Stellar, I'm actually a big fan. : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16216329

I feel really stupid. Back in 2015, their lead scientist David Mazières explained Stellar consensus protocol inside the Gates computer science building at Stanford to a small group of people back when Lumens were worthless. I was in that group of people and I completely missed the boat.

Isn't this insane though? When else would anybody be at a lunch talk where somebody goes over a consensus protocol and the idea would be "holy shit we are going to be rich by buying some tokens". If Dan was giving a talk on some new thing using multilinear maps nobody would say "oh fuck I've gotta get in on this and I'm going to be a billionaire". If Alex was giving a talk about some new way of doing superoptimization you wouldn't be interested in buying "STOKEcoin". Even when Dawson was doing the early stuff that turned into Coverity, nobody looked at the foundational algorithms and said that they should invest in the algorithms. You need to build a company that does something with a product.

Dave is a brilliant guy. But the response to a lunch talk shouldn't be to invest in tokens.

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