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XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

> I mean, who uses touch screens for development?

Co-workers are less likely to touch it and leave marks, that's the only upside I see.

> I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop.

I got a X1 Carbon a few days ago. I'm pretty content so far.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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post #98

Max 8gb for regular display... I mean, who uses touch screens for development? I can't really imagine a scenario where it would be helpful for me. Maybe when doing work in Illustrator and Photoshop, but I usually use a different machine for that anyhow, because of Adobe's lack of Linux support. I don't want to pay for something I won't use. I am otherwise actively looking for a laptop. System76 does not have European…

The main reason for putting touch screens on laptops is that Windows 8 - 10 have an interface that is designed to be tablet friendly, at the expense of being desktop friendly. So it is easier to do an occasional touch gesture to do certain things. Also, things like kinetic scrolling is easier with touch. With a mouse, you have to click the button, move the mouse, then unclick while the mouse is sill moving. Much easier to just flick the screen with your finger.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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post #71

How is the trackpad on these? I still haven't seen a non-Apple laptop where the trackpad comes even close to the Macbook.

It's a mess. Palm rejection is terrible. I use a wireless mouse with my XPS 13.

On Ubuntu?

I dual boot with windows and while your statement is 100% factual with Ubuntu, it seems to be better handled on windows. This appears to be a software issue; admittedly one which I think that they should be dealing with as a matter of urgency.

At least disable the thing while typing, Dell.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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post #90

Where's the fucking USB ports?!? I have literally used or observed zero USB C devices till now. I've seen newer phones but who plugs phones into computers anymore? The main issue is flash drives, external HDDs, mice, keyboards, LTE modems, Kindle, and so on. None of those are available in type C variants and I don't want to be inconvenienced by my new laptop. If I wanted to hurt myself I'd just buy from Apple!

I'm really happy about USB-C. Since I got a new Macbook I only carry a single power adapter when traveling, plus an adapter dongle for legacy devices (Headphones, Kindle, Shaver, ...). Same for use in the office: a single cable connects you to power, an external display, Ethernet, etc. It's true that most external devices are still USB-A, but that's not Dell's or Apple's problem. It's a chicken-and-egg situation and…

> USB-C is the superior connector: longer lasting, reversible, works for charging, alternate modes, etc.

...2.4GHz radio interference leading to wifi dropout on many devices when USBC peripherals are plugged in...

Ok, it's not the connector's fault, but still. USB 3 has not been a problem-free advancement.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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post #3

I've had so many problems with my XPS 13 that I bought in 2016 that I will never buy another one. Killer WiFi card was utter crap, laptop has issues going to sleep and waking up when closing the lid (sometimes it would hang on the the dell screen when trying to wake up and never recover), etc. Purely anecdotal, but a hard pass for me. Lenovo is my new laptop brand of choice.

Seconded. Build quality on the 9360 isn't great, trackpad and keyboard leave much to be desired for a high-end laptop. CPU seems to be throttled to deal with overheating, so performance just feels lacking.

Coil whine, stability and WiFi (terrible at first) have improved after some BIOS updates this year. Also my trackpad has stopped rattling, probably dirt got into the gap and plugged it.

Dell customer service experience was also poor when buying. Next laptop I'll be going back to Lenovo.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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My XPS 13 9350 is undoubtedly the best computer I've ever owned. I don't seem to have this coil whine thing or I just don't notice it. The 8GB of RAM has served me well and I'd never want to sacrifice any of the battery life for increasing that - it's an ultrabook after all. I've always run Ubuntu and while I did have problems with WiFi and resuming when it first came out, they are both rock solid now. I have never t…

Coil whine can easily be tested with this website (probably not a good link if you have epilepsy or Chiari malformations)

https://thume.ca/screentunes/

In my experience virtually all LCD displays have it to some degree, you just don't notice it except with certain patterns (like that one) that interact with the scanout mechanism.

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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post #97

Very cool, but as an owner of the Cube Thinker/i35--which has the same exact 3000x2000 3:2 aspect ratio display as the Surface Book (but costs $500)--I can't imagine why any developer would put up with a 16:9 display. Specially if you have "developer" in your product name, why can't they figure out that 16:9 is not the best aspect ratio for everyone? I write code the whole day, not watch movies. That huge extra verti…

I learned to code in the era of 3:2 displays, and I don't miss them. I never code using the full width of my display. If your lines are that long you have issues. I also don't really need any more vertical space. On my 15" laptop and my 27" display I can see plenty of code at once. Having a few more lines on the top of bottom would not magically alleviate the need to scroll. I'm all for people using the tools that su…

> The reason 16:9 displays are now common is not because of movies. When they came on the scene most people said "Wow this is nice."

What's so nice about them (besides of course for movies)? Most content consumed on computers is textual (websites?), so why would you have something wider than taller?

Re: XPS 13 developer edition 7th generation available

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IMO, it does not make sense to buy any of those new models: whether it's Dell, HP, or else--before we see models with 32Gb of RAM. It's been told here over and over since 2016 when first Touchbar MacBook got released. It's 2018 and all of us, including manufacturers, are locked with 16GB of RAM and those upgrades look like a joke. Within last month I noticed myötähäpeä when someone asks me for laptop advice. Hopefull…

They should, but I thought it was some sort of chipset limitation due to the usage of the low powered (laptop) Intel chip line. Which is why all these ultrabooks (under 15") have 16GB ceilings...
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