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Agreed. But Electrcn seems to be the only option these days.
Electron is pushed by JS devs because now they can target another platform with their toolset. The JS crowd is rather large. Sadly, Electron style apps aren't going to go away any time soon.
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Hard to describe the beginner experience with FPC (nice acronym) + Lazarus and Rebol. Rebol has a lot of sites showing you how to build simple GUIs fast although some things are getting old (had trouble getting the native email functionality to work). So more beginner friendly doc would help both projects a lot. Also, I think it would help pointing out that certain things like connecting to an Oracle db are easy in C…
>(had trouble getting the native email functionality to work) Interesting. Did you manage to solve that? I had tried out a good number of Rebol features earlier, including some Internet ones [1], but do not remember if I tried email and if it worked or not. [1] Pretty cool that you can do many Internet operations in one or a few lines of code, and also I like the functional / Lisp-y aspects of Rebol (and hence Red),…
I'm incredibly excited for Red's use for exploit development, as a security researcher having a tool like this can make things move along quite well.
Technology doesn't exist in a timeless vacuum. VB was in the right place at the right time, and solved a big problem. Solving that same problem now isn't nearly as magical. We have new problems. Still, what people miss is that a person (often brilliant) has a vision and creates it. The result has conceptual integrity and resonates with some people. Not all, but some. The goal is not to be all things to all people. That never works.
I loved VB. Still do. I used it from v1.0 thru v6, and was one of the first 4 VB MVPs when they created the MVP program. As badsectoracula said, it wasn't any one thing that made it special; it was the whole. But, just as the Director's Cut of a movie isn't always better, there is the possibility of taking something and making it better. Maybe not in the visionary's view, but for others. A tale as old as time.
There is a time to hold tight to the past, and a time to move forward without forgetting it.
There is a time to fiercely defend our position, and a time to give way and relinquish victory in small battles so that we may win the war.
Red is still very young, but Rebol's design is old. The problems Rebol aimed to solve were like classics in literature (or algorithms in CS), long-lived. Red is not aimed at solving only today's problems, or tomorrow's. It's aimed at solving the future's problems. Not by being one amazing product or technology, but by being a language we can use to communicate about problems we don't even know we have yet. For most people, though, it can serve very well as a tool to solve problems we have today, without knowing any of that.
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I've tried asking the community before and the response wasn't good. With that being said, the links you sent were pretty nice, so thank you!
You're welcome! I actually rather interested in DSL creation myself and want to dabble my feet in this topic sometime. And I also feel that creation of dialects is rather obscure art for old-timers, and that there's a need for learning material. With that said, I would appreciate if you'd listed what would you like to see in "How to bake DSL with Parse" guide of some sort, that would be really helpful when the time w…
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>(had trouble getting the native email functionality to work) Interesting. Did you manage to solve that? I had tried out a good number of Rebol features earlier, including some Internet ones [1], but do not remember if I tried email and if it worked or not. [1] Pretty cool that you can do many Internet operations in one or a few lines of code, and also I like the functional / Lisp-y aspects of Rebol (and hence Red),…
One big problem there is that protocols aren't sitting still in time. As more things change, like moving SMTP to ESMTP, Rebol needed to keep up, but didn't always. R2 was closed source, which didn't help. The protocol schemes were all written in Rebol, so you could hack them, which many of us have done over time, but that was an area where docs were lacking and sorely needed, so not many people could do it effectivel…