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If Woodshed are to be believed, D-Cal has basically tried to crush their reputation. They did the right thing not responding to tweets.
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"These Tweets are protected Only approved followers can see @Woodshedagency's Tweets. To request access, click Follow. Learn more." This does not exactly make them look like innocent above board victims of libel.
They've now posted their response, and if true, everything on their side makes sense, and makes this situation a good example of not 100% trusting one sided accusations without having the other side's version first.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15971899
The witch-hunt atmosphere in this thread is not my doing. Other people chose to upvote comments that agreed with the one sided smear campaign and downvote anything arguing for a more evenhanded approach.
Please note the final paragraph of that comment was added after it was downvoted into the negatives and initially was prefaced with "I have no idea why this is being downvoted, but... "
So I feel rather aggravated with my entire experience of this discussion. Get downvoted for an evenhanded comment, then later get lectured for a different one that could be framed as agreement with the smear campaign.
Not to self: Maybe I need to just avoid mudslinging discussions on HN lest I get mud slung all over me, no matter what I do. Trying to be a voice of reason in the face of this crap apparently does not do any good at all.
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"The author deleted this Medium story"
EDIT: i made a copy: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s3ymjWo7lQJxsrf0uDEurJZ3FB... original post: The summary as stated (and as i understood it) is as follows. I take no sides here, just trying to summarize the post since i managed to see it before it went bye-bye > campaign did not succeed as promised, owners allegedly propped it up with own money from fraudulent credit cards that never cleared > kickstarter paid…
The rest makes sense and I regret jumping to conclusions (though a quick tweet from Woodshed saying the story was inaccurate and they had a response coming without blocking people would have made it easier to trust them).
If it's true as told by Woodshed, if them I'd just refund the $16k to the backers, and wash my hands of it.
Looks like Woodshed agency have given their side of the story, and D-Cal are not exactly an innocent party in all of this: https://medium.com/@jeff_52578/how-a-failed-kickstarter-camp...
It was massively dumb to shut off their social media accounts, but I guess they were just folding under pressure. Smooth recovery.
Also it's remarkable how much power good writing has. Both for ill and for good.
I don't buy this story. The entire post is one sided - am I really supposed to believe some pr agency straight up stole your money? And now 7 months later you are "doing what we can on a legal front"? This is a perfect example of why we should all follow the "innocent until proven guilty" idea. There is no proof, no chance for the agency to refute claims, etc. Convenient that they are also asking for more financing.
The culprits have chosen to block people who ask them about it on twitter, and so far haven't told "their side".
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Blocking people on twitter doesn't mean anything, and this blog post came out today so I'm sure the agency is working on writing something with actual proof to respond with.
They’ve had 7 months to get their story right.