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Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by hammock » Thu, Dec 07, 2017, 5:02 PM UTC

threatofrain wrote: post #97

hammock wrote: post #62

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>Amazon removing the Chromecast from their store was, if anything, verification at the Fire TV was not a product that could succeed on its own. Did anyone ever think otherwise? Content is king. Fire stick is just a raspberry pi with half-ass UI built in

But shouldn't Amazon have a content advantage? A metaphorical Raspberry Pi with a better GUI should've been enough.

I interpreted parent's comment to mean Fire TV could not succeed agnostic/irrespective of the content.

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by kenning » Fri, Dec 08, 2017, 7:33 AM UTC

syshum wrote: post #48

kenning wrote: post #36

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The cool thing about chromecast is that you can drag and drop a video file into chrome and it will play on your tv. I don't want to see ads on youtube, so instead of using the built in chromecast support i just stream the window to my tv with ublock origin installed -- no ads. That's actually all i want, a wireless hdmi cable. But I'm in a tiny minority.

>>I don't want to see ads on youtube That is what a PiHole is for ;)

holy shit this is awesome, thank you

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by ct0 » Fri, Dec 08, 2017, 2:49 PM UTC

jimnotgym wrote: post #74

ct0 wrote: post #18

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thank goodness that samsung TV's can play from both sources

Until one of them falls out with Samsung, presumably?

pretty much, but since samsung doesnt enter the space of these competitors, it would be silly to have a falling out. Samsung doesnt offer too many competing products with amzn /goog

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:00 PM UTC

hammock wrote: post #62

RIMR wrote: post #9

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Amazon removing the Chromecast from their store was, if anything, verification at the Fire TV was not a product that could succeed on its own. I love my Chromecast and I buy new models directly from Google, because no matter what Amazon says I know the difference between Google's product, and Amazon's copycat version of it.

>Amazon removing the Chromecast from their store was, if anything, verification at the Fire TV was not a product that could succeed on its own. Did anyone ever think otherwise? Content is king. Fire stick is just a raspberry pi with half-ass UI built in

Can someone explain this to me.

I bought a Chromecast and took it back the next day, it didn't do anything beyond mirroring content from a particular device (seems everyone who watches needs a device, or you need a 2nd device for a room to be casting from), which any Android device does (including FireTV).

FireTV for me was a million times more useful, I must be missing something?

Re: Google Is Pulling YouTube Off the Fire TV and Echo Show

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Post by pbhjpbhj » Sun, Dec 10, 2017, 1:03 PM UTC

Crespyl wrote: post #61

syshum wrote: post #23

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If they would give me an actual controller for the chromecast I might consider it I have no desire to control my TV with my phone. I may look into Roku as an alternative to FireTV now though,

I'll third the praise for Roku. The only annoyance is that they put ads on the homescreen, (but that can be blocked at the network level), and that different apps tend to have slightly different/inconsistent UXs, for example pressing "up" while watching Netflix will show you the timeline without pausing, but doing the same in HBO Now will take you back out to the show info page. The dedicated remotes are nice, though…

Roku, seemingly, accessed my device and disabled side-loading. An unlawful access (unauthorised access, unauthorised modification, both crimes under the Computer Misuse Act in UK).

Put me off an otherwise stellar experience.