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The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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Post by vfulco »

burntrelish1273 wrote: post #101
dwaltrip wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent is using blunt language to communicate economically, don't read into it too much. The women displaying such mate selection patterns could easily be friendly, sociable, and well-liked.

LOL. I'm a cis white dude, 39, make ~300k year, skipped grad school, mild child prodigy, am in decent shape and am very tall. From my experience, women in major cities, especially in the U.S., are predominantly jaded, lack (or feign) general life-skills, life-experience, purpose, respect, manners, direction, trustworthiness and reciprocity. To me, the biggest turn-offs (sans personality disorders): materialism, strat…

So damn true. You nailed it. And hooking up the way you do pisses women off because they can't get their hooks in you then if you are otherwise satisfied.

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Post by nradov »

mnm1 wrote: post #8

Better tools to connect women and men could have a major impact and increase the chances that couples connect with each other. Tinder and other dating sites are absolute shit (plenty of literature on their problems for both men and women out there) and in person interactions are becoming more rare. Improving these tools might help some of the people who would otherwise not connect or find suitable mates to do so, tho…

It's not technically hard to build a dating site/app. If you have an idea for a better tool then go ahead and build it. Numerous entrepreneurs have already succeeded in this space. IAC is happy to buy up any dating site that establishes a large user base.

Re: The Mating Crisis Among Educated Women

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Post by passwordqq »

xor1 wrote: post #35
steanne wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that won't expand the pool as much as you think. it widens it on the education variable, but narrowers it to men who aren't threatened by women who are more educated (and possibly higher-paid) than they are.

>men who aren't threatened by women who are more educated (and possibly higher-paid) than they are Do these people actually exist anymore? What kind of man is really going to pass on an otherwise suitable partner just because she's more educated and makes more money than him? I can't imagine a single person I know thinking something along the lines of "yeah, she's great, but she makes more money than me, it won't wor…

Why do you care/how do you know about their salaries in the first place?

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Post by MarkMc »

ghostcluster wrote: post #94
niuzeta wrote: post #81

Is this a problem that needs to be solved, though? I see a dichotomy here. On one hand, we would like to have more women in the "educated" and therefore, high-income workforce. This, in turn, causes imbalance in the dating market and may force the women in the high-income bracket to make a concession(by lowering their standards, etc). On the other, we can go back to the model where men dominate the high-income workfo…

It's one of the drivers causing all developed countries to have a fertility rate below the replacement rate. Japan's population, which is shrinking, worries about an aging majority without a base of young healthy workers who can support the economy and social programs. They are trying to mend this in the medium term by encouraging more women into the workforce, but, as we see from this article, that may have the unin…

That's a problem for Japan, but not rich western countries which can simply accept more immigration.

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Post by mythrwy »

xor1 wrote: post #110
mythrwy wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So are religious leaders and mothers and Soviet social planners. But they are perpetually disappointed. Because what is humanity without it's biology? Instinct doesn't belong to the individual, it belongs to the species. And life doesn't care atoll about abstract moral principal. That's just syntactic sugar to help us manage and grow the hive given biological impulse. When we overcome a natural impulse guess what? It…

>If we overcome all natural impulse (how?) this species is finished and are something else, certainly not "humanity" at that point. What's wrong with that?

It might be inevitable that we give rise to intelligent machines, become machines and that's it. Nothing wrong with it.

But at present we are behaviorally closer to monkeys even if we dress up in suits and have rules and values. Which don't (unlike what we generally conceive) have any eternal significance beyond being various versions of conventions such as "who gets to pick the lice off the alpha male first".

Point being, what we are is the reality of what we have to work with. Mating included. Puritan scolders will forever fail and life will keep right on going until the machine (if that ever happens).

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Post by lovich »

nradov wrote: post #109
vowelless wrote: post #3

> They end up being forced to compete for the limited pool of educated men not just with their more numerous educated rivals, but also with less educated women whom men find desirable on other dimensions. Considering that we want to eliminate any gaps between the genders, why are educated women limited to educated men of their own ages? Why not increase the pool like men do: go for more younger, possibly less educate…

Indeed. This is an imaginary crisis invented by people who just want to whine instead of finding solutions for themselves. Travel and online dating are (relatively) cheap. If someone can't find an educated husband in Manhattan then take a trip to Shenzhen or Houston or wherever.

Traveling across the world ain't cheap. Maybe to you but not to the majority of people. When you add on the fact that your have to make multiple trips to meet people, as it's unlikely that you will meet your future spouse on the first trip you make to another area, most people will only be dating within their local area just as an economic necessity

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Post by gozur88 »

lackbeard wrote: post #93

> But for accomplished women who successfully traverse the waters of a mating pool unfairly stacked against them, mating triumph at the individual level typically takes precedence over loftier goals of reducing societal-level inequality when the two come into conflict. It's wrong to characterize the pool as "unfairly" stacked against them; they could choose to date men with lower incomes or less education.

Yeah, it's assortive mating. It's not that the mating pool is stacked against them - it's that their self assessment of their own "rank" is too high. They assume men want in a woman what women want in a man, and for the most part men don't care about the (potential) wife's career.
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