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Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by teekert »

shakna wrote: post #64
asfdsfggtfd wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hang on did they drop Mir?

You've had both yes and no answers. The answer is no. Mir 0.28 landed just in time for 17.10, as a sibling linked. This version includes basic Wayland support. A read over Mir/Spec [0] shows that though they don't want Wayland to be at the core of Mir, they want to be able to talk and integrate with it at a higher level. It should be noted that Mir is only installed by default on Ubuntu Touch, and probably won't be i…

Unity8 is as dead as Ubuntu Phone (if you don't count community forks). Gnome is the future of Ubuntu, there will be no Mir, there will be no Unity8.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by hyperbovine »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #9
roenxi wrote: post #7

Pay attention to the 2nd dot point under known issues. This release uses Wayland, and that has profound implications for screenshot, streaming and remote desktop-ing. The Wayland protocol apparently made some bold decisions to enforce security through isolation, and apart from the compositor it is all but impossible for anything to sneak a peak at what other programs are doing visually. It'll be interesting to see if…

Not to mention HiDPI problems and serious issues with the proprietary nvidia driver. The situation is improving all the time though and hopefully this should mark the beginning of some good times for Wayland. More choice is always a good thing. Of course, the option is right there on the login screen to start an X session instead, if Wayland doesn't work for you.

I'm writing this on 17.10, a 1080Ti and a 4k monitor. Other than the lack of video acceleration in any browser (which is not specific to this setup), it's fine.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by shakna »

teekert wrote: post #111
shakna wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've had both yes and no answers. The answer is no. Mir 0.28 landed just in time for 17.10, as a sibling linked. This version includes basic Wayland support. A read over Mir/Spec [0] shows that though they don't want Wayland to be at the core of Mir, they want to be able to talk and integrate with it at a higher level. It should be noted that Mir is only installed by default on Ubuntu Touch, and probably won't be i…

Unity8 is as dead as Ubuntu Phone (if you don't count community forks). Gnome is the future of Ubuntu, there will be no Mir, there will be no Unity8.

As I said, Mir has a fresh release in this release, and continued development. If it's dead in the water... You might want to go tell the team.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by ape4 »

ausjke wrote: post #68

32-bit installer images are no longer provided for Ubuntu Desktop. The Ubuntu Desktop now uses GNOME instead of Unity. On supported systems, Wayland is now the default display server. The older display server is still available: just choose Ubuntu on Xorg from the cog on the log in screen. GDM has replaced LightDM as the default display manager. The login screen now uses virtual terminal 1 instead of virtual terminal…

So " ubuntu-17.10-server-i386.iso" is 64-bit?

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by Vinnl »

roryrjb wrote: post #2

Obviously this is significant because this is the first release with Gnome 3 instead of Unity. I actually liked Unity a lot but also like Gnome 3, what are people's thoughts?

I've been using GNOME Shell in preparation for this, and with almost the same customisations as the Ubuntu devs have done by default, it almost feels like the same experience. Perhaps even a bit smoother, given that most of the apps were actually made with this experience in mind.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by twic »

SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #8
roryrjb wrote: post #2

Obviously this is significant because this is the first release with Gnome 3 instead of Unity. I actually liked Unity a lot but also like Gnome 3, what are people's thoughts?

I've been running the Artful beta as my daily OS but was having some weird scaling issues with certain apps on my 4K displays. Chrome particularly looked "fuzzy". Decided to give Linux Mint Cinnamon a week back and so far couldn't be happier with it. I know Cinnamon is available on Ubuntu too, I'm surprised it's not more popular as a DE as it's very polished.

I switched to Cinnamon on Ubuntu after struggling with Unity for six months. Works perfectly, and personally, i much prefer it to Unity.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by selectodude »

ape4 wrote: post #115
ausjke wrote: post #68

32-bit installer images are no longer provided for Ubuntu Desktop. The Ubuntu Desktop now uses GNOME instead of Unity. On supported systems, Wayland is now the default display server. The older display server is still available: just choose Ubuntu on Xorg from the cog on the log in screen. GDM has replaced LightDM as the default display manager. The login screen now uses virtual terminal 1 instead of virtual terminal…

So " ubuntu-17.10-server-i386.iso" is 64-bit?

No, also it’s not “Ubuntu Desktop”.

Re: Ubuntu 17.10 Artful Aardvark released

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Post by majewsky »

castle-bravo wrote: post #101
majewsky wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1% of users with very particular requirements should not hold back the experience of the other 99%.

Something as fundamental as remote desktop should not be sacrificed for the convenience of a tiny minority of developers.

It appears we have finally found a volunteer for X11 maintenance.
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