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Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by rangibaby »

SmellTheGlove wrote: post #35
pasukin wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's difficult to compare Dropbox to Apple, Google and Microsoft in terms of what they offer and for how much. All three of those giants are able to subsidize their storage offerings. Apple has their hardware business, Google has their ad business, and Microsoft has their software business. The storage offerings from all three are used to entice you into using their other services. It doesn't matter if they're profit…

If you're a consumer, it's easy to compare, though. Consumers don't care about the vendor's costs, just the price and some perception of stability (of which, if I had to bet, Dropbox and Apple are the most likely to not surprise-discontinue on us in the future). That said I'm pretty happy with Dropbox and not going to switch. I'd love Smart Sync, though, but not at 2x the price I'm paying for Plus right now. $99 a ye…

Selective sync can be used the same way as smart sync as long as you remember to untick your special folder on new computers as soon as you install the Dropbox client (arggh!!!!)

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by kayoone »

tinus_hn wrote: post #103
kayoone wrote: post #24

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not only Apple and Google, compared to Office365 for $99 per year which includes 1TB Onedrive + full Office for up to 5 users, i don't see how dropbox is worth it nowadays

At least for the OneDrive for Business offering, it’s easy for them to offer 1tb of storage since you’re never going to be able to be use it anyway, the sync client will crash and burn long before you get near that. It is not in the same league as Dropbox.

OneDrive is no Dropbox (which i use aswell in its free form for sharing) but it works fine for me for general sync and storage.

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by kayoone »

1123581321 wrote: post #99
kayoone wrote: post #20

I have a hard time with Dropbox' pricing. I was a pro user once, but discontinued it because i didn't actually need that much storage, i would have been fine with 100GB for 40 EUR or something. I pay 99 per year for Office365 which gives me the full office suite for 5 people who can each install everything on 5 devices + 1TB OneDrive. Of course OneDrive is no Dropbox, but it does it's job and holds the bulk of my dat…

I would say it's more that you don't need Dropbox's non-storage features and value Microsoft Office. My $100/year pays for the quality sync client and the web interface than the space (I have fewer files to sync than you do.) Since there are probably more people who are paying for quality/reliability than paying "per gigabytes," they would badly hurt their business by offering a plan that cheap. Since OneDrive's lowe…

Why can't they offer the same quality/reliability at $40 for say 250GB ? I value Dropbox quality sync, but i think they will have to lower prices sooner or later. And let's be honest, it's not that Dropbox is flawless, even when using just syncing i had my share of problems over the years that i used them (since 2009).

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by varenc »

dordoka wrote: post #97
varenc wrote: post #90

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Errr, I don't get this reaction. If you were already a Dropbox customer, you haven't lost a single feature, right?

They quietly removed shared link controls from Plus accounts (previously Pro accounts). Apparently customers already in Plus will keep that granfathered, but new customers won't. That's a feature lost, as if you decide to cancel and comeback, you won't get it back unless you upgrade. They have also negated selective sync to Plus customers, ignoring hundreds of comments on their forum.

The point still stands that if you have an account, and Dropbox was worth it yesterday, it's worth it today. Would be nice to get Smart Sync, but there's nothing you lost to make Dropbox less valuable then it was yesterday. (unless you were expecting your existing account to get Smart Sync soon?)

(also note that selective sync != smart sync)

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by distances »

whipoodle wrote: post #84
ferdbold wrote: post #78

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Well they have me because Google Sync doesn't seem to work half of the time and/or takes forever to sync on all of my devices, and OneDrive and iCloud don't have clients on Linux (really?)

It’s so bad. My work just switched to Google from Dropbox and it performs much worse. Also everything about the client and the product just screams that Google doesn’t give a crap about it.

Yes, Google Drive is the butt of many jokes in our company too. The main reason we're using it is because Dropbox is prohibitively expensive.

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by slededit »

ferdbold wrote: post #78
kayoone wrote: post #24

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not only Apple and Google, compared to Office365 for $99 per year which includes 1TB Onedrive + full Office for up to 5 users, i don't see how dropbox is worth it nowadays

Well they have me because Google Sync doesn't seem to work half of the time and/or takes forever to sync on all of my devices, and OneDrive and iCloud don't have clients on Linux (really?)

To be pedantic you mean the POSIX userland. Office (including its OneDrive integration) does ship on Linux, albeit under the Android userland which doesn't help you if you want to run Ubuntu.

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by bad_user »

I'm a long time Dropbox user, paying €14 per month (including the extended version history and taxes).

If I upgrade to Pro to try it out and then downgrade to Plus, I'll probably lose the "shared link controls" feature. To take a feature out of a current plan in order to convince people to jump on your new plan — that's a pretty shitty thing to do for any company.

Also €14 is already above the threshold that I'm willing to pay as a professional and yes, I rely on Dropbox to keep my data safe and for sharing stuff with others. But I've been doing it in the hope that Dropbox will include features that I need and I've been glad to support them.

Features like online full-text indexing are missing from Plus and I need that, because I'm searching for documents on my mobile phone too. And I've been putting up with it hoping that it will eventually be included.

And now they want me to pay €20 for that, not including the extended versioning? I'm also a FastMail user, paying around €4 for email. So that would be a €24 per month for file storage, plus email, forgoing the extended version history, going out of my own pocket.

Well, Google's GSuite for Business is €9.52 (including taxes), which includes email and unlimited storage (they say 1TB for under 5 users, but truth is they aren't capping your account until you abuse it). And on last year's Black Friday I saw Office 365 Family offers for €4 / month.

Now I understand that Dropbox has the best sync engine. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now — and I might try the Pro plan this month. But if that Smart Sync feature doesn't do wonders for me, I'm switching, sorry.

Also Smart Sync is not available for Linux. Again, I've been putting up with their big price because I care about Linux. Not seeing the Linux client evolving however makes me wonder about their long term support and seriously, if they ever drop Linux support, I'll drop them like a hot potato.

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by bad_user »

SmellTheGlove wrote: post #37
brightball wrote: post #7

I might sign up for this just for Smart sync. A great next step here would be to venture into the online document signing space (Ecosign, RightSignature, etc). You’ve got probably 70% of what you need for it here already with Showcase. EDIT: Tried to sign up but the linux client doesn't support Smart Sync yet. Support people tell me it's pending.

> I might sign up for this just for Smart sync. Not me. I'd pay a little more for Smart Sync, but not double the price. If they went to $129 on Plus and included that feature, I'd upgrade immediately. If anything, this thread has me looking at OneDrive because I didn't realize $99 a year got you Office + 1TB of storage. I said upthread I didn't intend to switch, but now I'm really thinking.

On last year's Black Friday, in Romania (my country) I saw Office365 Family offers for $50 and you can simply wait for Black Friday next year to renew.

On the other hand OneDrive's client is shitty and until last month they weren't doing file versioning either. So it's just a cheap knockoff and you get what you pay for.

Microsoft Office being included is cool, but then me and my colleagues are collaborating with Google Docs, which is way better than anything else when multiple people are editing the same files. For presentations I'm using Apple's Keynote, which is the best I've seen thus far. And there's always LibreOffice for those docs I receive.

What I use OneDrive for are backups with https://www.arqbackup.com — if I can find good offers this year, I might renew and keep my backup system, otherwise no.

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by rodgerd »

rangibaby wrote: post #110
rodgerd wrote: post #85

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I'm sure not having clients on < 5% of the desktop market will cause Microsoft to become non-viable any day now.

I think it is this kind of attitude that made them miss the boat on mobile

You mean the boat where I can get Office etc on Android and iOS?

Re: Dropbox Professional

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Post by askvictor »

vanous wrote: post #83
ferdbold wrote: post #78

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Well they have me because Google Sync doesn't seem to work half of the time and/or takes forever to sync on all of my devices, and OneDrive and iCloud don't have clients on Linux (really?)

What sync do you use on Linux then? I am moving over from the Goog to mega. Full Linux support, 50GB, TNO.

Insync is one option (you do have to pay though) that works much like Google's client; there are other command line options too.
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