Introducing Surface Book 2 • Hacker News Board

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by mariusmg » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:04 PM UTC

ksec wrote: post #75

rayiner wrote: post #17

The pricing is brutal.[1] About $100-$300 more than the 15" Macbook Pro with the same amount of storage. The base model is particularly shameful, with only 8GB of RAM. The base MBP is 16GB for $100 less. You can't configure the RAM amount, so $2,900 is the cheapest 15" model with 16GB. [1] Or perhaps it's more that the configuration options are really inflexible, with every configuration having the highest-end CPU an…

Basically you are paying for a better CPU, you get the option of Intel's 8th Gen CPU..... and Nvidia GPU, arguably better then one offered by Apple. I just wish Apple will make their own Metal GPU for Mac. At least then I know the GPU will be best at something Apple designed to do.

"I just wish Apple will make their own Metal GPU for Mac"

This hurts my brain for some reason. Metal is a API to access the GPU and you want them to make a new GPU for that....API. Huh ?!?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by dalacv » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:05 PM UTC

Jaqua wrote: post #21

Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

My, how times have changed. I'm freaking old.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by lmm » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:05 PM UTC

Jaqua wrote: post #21

Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

I was a Linux diehard for years but I'm very happy with my Surface Book. With "Ubuntu on Windows" you can run the usual unix command line tools; if anything it's more comfortable than OSX since you get up-to-date GNU versions rather than older GNU tools.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by albertgoeswoof » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:06 PM UTC

Whenever I fly on business with my macbook/lenovo I am super jealous of surface users, because they can use their machine during take off, as it's classified as a tablet when folded over.

Seems minor but it's annoying when you're stuck looking at some crappy tv show or movie for an hour on each flight.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by avenoir » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:07 PM UTC

Jaqua wrote: post #21

Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

I've been saying this about every model of XPS then I'd buy one and suffer through constant driver issues. The build quality is definitely there which was lacking before but the quality of drivers make me run for hills.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by masklinn » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:07 PM UTC

Sujan wrote: post #106

masklinn wrote: post #76

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Yeah it's really frustrating. * this page is an ad copy with very little of interest * the store page ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-book-2/8MCPZ... ) has no date, no price and only hints at specs (you can pick a model but have no idea that e.g. the 13.5" i5 is iGP and the i7 is dGPU) * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book... has the actual stuff you want, with a detailed sp…

Now I wish I hadn't found the prices...

They're not exactly surprising, it's a successor to the SB1 and competitor with the rMBP.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by TYPE_FASTER » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:07 PM UTC

Having recently used a XPS 13, original Surface Book, Surface laptop, Surface Pro, and Lenovo T560, the Surface laptop is the clear winner for me. Definitely worth a look if you're looking for good Windows hardware, and don't need the discrete graphics capability of the Surface Book.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by baldfat » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:08 PM UTC

Jaqua wrote: post #21

Looks like a proper MacBook Pro replacement HW wise, but the OS is not one I would use for work.. =/ So attached to OSX for the past 6 years and cannot see me using a windows OS for work , but at home only for gaming. The new MacBook Pro has many flaws. Not sure how this compares in real use for it?

It certainly feels like Mac OS is stuck in in-between land with iOS and OS X and it just feels a mess if your on a desktop with no track pad. The scroll bars are not mouse friendly. Windows 10 seems so much more stable and modern to Mac OS for the last two years. One job I use a Macbook and the OS just drives me nuts. The lack of decent short cuts drives is mind boggling.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by artursapek » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:08 PM UTC

jackielii wrote: post #44

zeveb wrote: post #30

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I imagine that it can run Linux, right — if not now, soon. I personally much prefer Linux to both macOS & Windows, although obviously tastes differ. I get a tiling WM with no cruft, I can completely control my UI, I can get work done quickly and easily.

Same here. I can live without touch or stylus, just want a performance laptop with good screen (3:2 ratio) and keyboard.

Thinkpad?

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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Post by kanishkdudeja » Tue, Oct 17, 2017, 3:09 PM UTC

rhexs wrote: post #69

kanishkdudeja wrote: post #28

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What issues did you face?

A better question is, what issues didn't I face? Unlocking randomly wouldn't work, the display driver was crashing when using firefox/chrome consistently, battery life was abysmal, device would bluescreen, etc. From what I understand they finally patched most of these out after more than a year. No need to go on that roller coaster again.

Really strange how big corporations put out devices before testing them out properly!