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Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by dvt » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:50 PM UTC

politician wrote: post #104

derekp7 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you purchased the device from Google, and they locked you out, couldn't you sue them in small claims court? That would at least force them to respond, and if they don't they would get a default judgement against them. If it is possible / likely that a court would hear the case, would your only option then be to sue for monetary damages, or could you sue for them to perform an action (such as reinstating your accou…

The consumer likely "agreed" to this treatment in the TOS/EULA.

Whether or not you agreed to a TOS/EULA is irrelevant. It's for a judge to decide whether or not locking you out of your account (rendering a piece of hardware you purchased nigh worthless) is legal.

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by nickysielicki » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:50 PM UTC

AlexCoventry wrote: post #96

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #66

I think a major issue is what happens if Google locks your account for some reason. There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user for some TOS violations. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-reseller... http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-peters... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... Given that Google has a propensity…

> There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user This happened to me recently (though I think for security concerns, not TOS violations), and was quite distressing. What steps can be taken to avoid this?

phone-based 2FA, physical security tokens, strong passwords, equally secured recovery email address, nontrivial recovery questions.

Google accounts have far more security options than most online banking platforms. There's no reason you should lose your google account as long as you listen to the notifications that tell you to review your account security and go through the steps.

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by busterarm » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:50 PM UTC

notheguyouthink wrote: post #102

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #66

I think a major issue is what happens if Google locks your account for some reason. There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user for some TOS violations. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-reseller... http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-peters... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... Given that Google has a propensity…

Previously everything of mine went through Google. Email, phone, phone number, search, etc. I've migrated everything away (except Google Voice) for this very reason. My life would have came to a grinding halt if they banned me, and I couldn't even email them about it.

What was your gmail alternative?

I tried to switch everything to Lavabit, but then a month later the Snowden thing happened...that didn't last (and I'm still out all that money)

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by kyrra » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:50 PM UTC

vazamb wrote: post #78

cobookman wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yep. However you cannot code locally on your laptop at google. So you end up either using a web based IDE or just using the desktop workstation they give you (locally, ssh, or VNC).

Like, no one can? That seems weirdly restrictive. Is it for security reasons?

Code on laptops is a major security concern for any company if the laptop is stolen. While the improvements in disk encryption has helped curb this problem, it is definitely a risk larger companies don't always want to take.

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by fgblanch » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:50 PM UTC

colemickens wrote: post #90

I'm disappointed that the 16GB models aren't ready and that they didn't announce (or open up any additional documentation) about crosvm or Project Termina. They didn't even highlight that this is the first Chromebook to have a non-Chromebook keyboard... The keyboard looks aimed directly at developers. I really hope the Chromium wiki releases some new documentation soon. (If anyone has gleaned more details about Termi…

Agree, on everything. It would be great to have more technical details on the new version.

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by minivan » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:51 PM UTC

Here's a youtube promo video for those of us in Europe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umhPrOo47-A

The link in the post redirects to the Google store that only shows a Chromecast. Oh well.

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by bbunix » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:52 PM UTC

chrissnell wrote: post #42

What's the experience like for Linux-on-Chromebook these days? Can I expect hardware support that's equal of what I get with a Lenovo T470s?

GalliumOS is beautiful, period... great hardware support

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by Romanulus » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:53 PM UTC

bubblethink wrote: post #56

I hate this trend of dumbing down product specifications. I don't know who started it (probably Apple?), but everyone does it now. Like what fucking i5 or i7 processor ? Is the storage soldered even for the nvme option ? It doesn't help that Intel keeps playing tricks with their naming either. i7 used to be quad core, then it became dual core for thin laptops. Now they are back to low freq quad core in some SKUs. For…

... but... four mics!

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by plg » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:53 PM UTC

can you use it without an internet connection? e.g. on a plane without wifi?

Re: Google Pixelbook – A High Performance Chromebook

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Post by tmaly » Wed, Oct 04, 2017, 6:53 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #85

RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #66

I think a major issue is what happens if Google locks your account for some reason. There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user for some TOS violations. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-reseller... http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-peters... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... Given that Google has a propensity…

I uploaded full seasons of a very old 90s cartoon and my account is disabled. I cannot even purchase YouTube TV to try it out. Of course, reaching out to support is moot - their RoboSupport sucks. I will never purchase a Google product if I can help it and will steer clear of them in any team setting where I can affect the decision.

>support is moot

that is how I feel about most of their hardware products. I had a nexus 5 and when ever there was an android release, there were all sorts of problems that filled up the message boards.