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Re: Request for Education Startups

#112

These all seem to be assuming the institution-teacher-student model of education we have today. Even the "New school models" section is assuming a delivered experience, which has an institutional bent. I think biggest area of disruption in education would be in building fundamentally new architectures for educational systems, based on networks and social communities instead of funnels and institutions. The latter hav…

Enjoying reading your posts in this article.

Institutions are definitely worried about their relevance and scared that they are going to be cut out.

The majority of students today anyways, are not self-directed and self-guided learners.

Instructors in my mind remain essential. How much non-essential stuff instructors teach may change.

I have experienced building and delivering high school curriculum for diploma credit online, and notice something quite different from post-secondaries.

Post-secondary institution seem, at times to act like their gig is up of making students take courses they don't really need. I'm grossly oversimplifying the underlying issues that lead to this.

Instructors who care about providing a better learning experience than a PDF loaded into Moodle destined to add little to no value are my heroes today. If our games and apps are better than the digital learning experiences, the producers of digital education (institutions) are in for a rude awakening.

Re: Request for Education Startups

#113

These all seem to be assuming the institution-teacher-student model of education we have today. Even the "New school models" section is assuming a delivered experience, which has an institutional bent. I think biggest area of disruption in education would be in building fundamentally new architectures for educational systems, based on networks and social communities instead of funnels and institutions. The latter hav…

I always suggest the Learning Web chapter of Deschooling Society to anyone interested in ideas for technology enabled learning ventures. It's brilliant. It also helps to skip some of the more political chapters as they are likely to turn people off from his compelling vision for learning societies. Edit: spelling

Had forgotten about this - thanks for sharing it!

Re: Request for Education Startups

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The coding boot camps are closing en masse. I can't speak for the other alternative educational models, but there has been quite a bit of discussion around the boot camps closing. Here is a recent article: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/technology/coding-boot-ca...

Nah, two of the 100 closed, the industry is fine. One is going to start up again in the same place with the same people and a different name. The other was purchased by Kaplan, which is as close as you can get to a death knell. Most are making grundles of money. We’re not really a code bootcamp but we get thousands of applications per month and have employers incredibly hungry for our grads.

They are two of the major ones with multiple facilities. That doesn't bode well for the industry.

Also, kudos on grundles. That is my new favorite word.

Re: Request for Education Startups

#115

These all seem to be assuming the institution-teacher-student model of education we have today. Even the "New school models" section is assuming a delivered experience, which has an institutional bent. I think biggest area of disruption in education would be in building fundamentally new architectures for educational systems, based on networks and social communities instead of funnels and institutions. The latter hav…

Tutoring could be a way to break this model - if suitably equipped tutors can boost the existing systems of student performance beyond what the education system can do with it's resources, some good questions would arise.

The article makes reference to breaking.

Very little has changed in online education in the past 20 years. I feel it's a lot of BS, videos get prettier, devices get a little more powerful, but it's the same stuff being hawked in the mid 90's.

Re: Request for Education Startups

#116
School has played a socialization role for kids and a role in the community - teachers have often been role models, and education has often extended beyond the subjects taught, to, at its best, teaching deeper life skills.

And then of course there are various troubled or at-risk populations of students where no amount of educational technology will help because they come from broken homes and underserved communities.

This is not to denigrate the idea of Education Startups, but rather, to point out the broader scope of "education".

Re: Request for Education Startups

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post #114

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Nah, two of the 100 closed, the industry is fine. One is going to start up again in the same place with the same people and a different name. The other was purchased by Kaplan, which is as close as you can get to a death knell. Most are making grundles of money. We’re not really a code bootcamp but we get thousands of applications per month and have employers incredibly hungry for our grads.

They are two of the major ones with multiple facilities. That doesn't bode well for the industry. Also, kudos on grundles. That is my new favorite word.

Make sure you know the definition before you start using it casually as he has!

> Noun. grundle (plural grundles) (US, slang) The area between anus and scrotum in a male or between anus and vulva in a woman. [0]

[0]: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/grundle

Re: Request for Education Startups

#118
I'm making my own learning materials for self-studying Chinese.

https://pingtype.github.io

VoiceTube is a similar startup company that scaled this up to help people learn English.

http://www.voicetube.com

I have no idea how to turn my Chinese-learning data into a practical business. I emailed 100 Chinese teachers in universities around Taiwan, but didn't get any replies.

If someone wants to do the business and marketing, I'm happy to give you everything I've done so far.

Re: Request for Education Startups

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It's kinda crazy that assessment has been coupled with instruction for so long, it pretty obviously creates a warped incentive model that stands on some real shaky ground. I think the model also doesn't scale well for assessment, which prompts the creation of few, ineffective, but highly scalable assessments upon which the functioning of the entire system rest, which in turn prompts practices like teaching to the tes…

I like the concept of community-driven recognition, but I would caution against separating assessment from learning (if you used "instruction" to mean the moment when learning happens). Communities that engage in collaborative work (like open source projects, or guilds) are very good at surfacing and recognizing expertise. Making assessment a separate process increases the risk that we measure the things we can count…

I definitely see where you're coming from, but I think the danger there is not necessarily anything to do with the coupling of assessment and learning but the coupling of assessment with the learned, i.e those who possess a skill/piece of knowledge/trait should be the ones who define the assessments around it. I like that you bring up guilds because that's very much baked into their process I think.
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