Currently there is a £2.50 fee for deliveries in London with Deliveroo. Even with extreme optimization a Deliveroo rider can't possibly make more than 3-4 "proper" deliveries in an hour (food gets cold fast! And when it gets returned deliveroo & the restaurant suffers) so maybe they can generate around £10/hour in revenue for Deliveroo. Then you need to take out costs for the driver, development, marketing, integrati…
I have no doubt Deliveroo gets a percentage cut on the cost of the food, too. That can really add up all by itself.
Deliveroo raises $385M in new funding
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Yeah, I forgot to say that. 30% is very similar to just eat's take too. Seeing as the minimum order is invariably £10, the minimum take for deliveroo is £5 per order, but I'm guessing it's usually more like £7-£10. They'll definitely still be able to make money after a change in status.
Where have you got that 30% number from? I am pretty sure it was around 10% four years ago in most parts of western Europe and it would surprise me seeing it tripled.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
You say that Deliveroo has shitty working conditions and I probably don't disagree (I know nothing of them), but I'm a second year university student and I'm being pressured to find a job by my parents while I'm here; Deliveroo seems like my best bet at the moment with flexible hours; I probably wouldn't be making any more than minimum wage elsewhere anyway. I hope that's some insight as to why it's attractive to som…
"Deliveroo seems like my best bet at the moment with flexible hours" "I probably wouldn't be making any more than minimum wage elsewhere" I wonder - and I'd be interested to hear your experience in this - how in-demand you end up becoming. Do your available hours coincide with other students, in which case, is your time mostly spent sitting around waiting, competing with a number of other people for a small number of…
As a self employed rider you get 5.50€ per delivery, but have to pay health and social insurance yourself. Employees have to pay less than half of the total cost.
How much you sit around or compete with others depends on the shifts you take ..
It could be a pretty attractive job for someone that likes to take off-peak shifts and read or work on something else while having to do the occasional delivery in his home neighborhood.
It can get even nicer if one can log in from home. It does happen frequently, that no deliveries happen at all during shifts, so one really can focus on other projects while getting paid by deliveroo.
I honestly am surprised how deliveroo manages to keep the restaurants on board. They have to give more than 30% of the earnings to deliveroo, most restaurant owners are extremely annoyed and frustrated with the service and are already playing with the idea of pulling the plug again. Since recently deliveroo tries to force the cost for the paper bags onto the restaurants(13cents), which exacerbates the situation...
From an environmental perspective they are contributing to an enormous amount of garbage, the majority of containers are plastic and in the worst case styrofoam. As an example, riders sometimes have to drive by car for 5-8km because someone ordered a soup for 5€ (Plus 7€ to reach the minimum of 12€ and paid 2.90€ delivery fee on top of that).
This business model contributes to the convenience culture that we in the western world are celebrating and which is part-responsible for quite a few serious issues that we are now facing..
One thing deliveroo has going for them is that the people in charge are always very reasonable and friendly, treat their employees with respect and are quite forgiving. But I assume that this is simply because the whole system is very fragile and they know it. In my city there are always way too few drivers. It is apparent how desperately they need the drivers.
I was surprised to read about the funding, because i assumed the whole thing can't be sustainable in the long run.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes you think Just-Eat ran out of steam "years ago"? Stock price is higher than ever: http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-marke... They are reporting good growth: http://www.cityam.com/256734/just-eat-reported-order-growth-... I see lots of Deliveroo bikes around where I live in the centre of London, but they are basically non-existant when I go to other towns and cities. Also, Deliveroo sta…
Entirely anecdotal, but my perception of Just Eat, Hungry House, etc. is of consistently crap takeaway food. I do not, and will not, order from them. Their reviews are completely untrustworthy - you literally never know what you’re going to get. There is no image to hurt - they’re the lowest of the low. In the UK, Deliveroo originally differentiated primarily by only accepting high quality restaurants, rather than ta…
But the real problem was deliveries. With just eat, the restaurant was in charge of the delivery. I found myself countless times wandering the streets around my block looking for the car of a delivery driver who didn't speak a word of english and was either too dumb or too lazy to get to the right place. Sort of defeats the purpose of a delivery.
Deliveroo did two things right: they took the burden of the delivery away from the restaurant and do it well, and they enlist quality restaurants, as opposed to the local kebab shop.
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To be fair, a few motorbikes/bicycles temporarily waiting next to each other is not such a big deal to me in comparison to the fact that roughly half of every street in every big city in the UK is dedicated to parked cars. Putting aside the apparently shitty working conditions at gig economy companies like Deliveroo (which I dearly hope will be resolved with all the recent bad publicity around Uber and co), I like th…
You say that Deliveroo has shitty working conditions and I probably don't disagree (I know nothing of them), but I'm a second year university student and I'm being pressured to find a job by my parents while I'm here; Deliveroo seems like my best bet at the moment with flexible hours; I probably wouldn't be making any more than minimum wage elsewhere anyway. I hope that's some insight as to why it's attractive to som…
It also looks like they're implementing a new scheduling system in a week, which will prevent there being too many riders active in an area, but that means they'll decide which riders get the first pick of the time slots they want.
As with any "sharing economy" company, expect to be "employed" on capricious and arbitrary terms. Go to some Deliveroo rider-specific web forums and you can understand a bit better.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Entirely anecdotal, but my perception of Just Eat, Hungry House, etc. is of consistently crap takeaway food. I do not, and will not, order from them. Their reviews are completely untrustworthy - you literally never know what you’re going to get. There is no image to hurt - they’re the lowest of the low. In the UK, Deliveroo originally differentiated primarily by only accepting high quality restaurants, rather than ta…
Get off your high horse for few minutes. High quality restaurants? Around Edinburgh the 'highest quality' restaurant offered is Pizza Express.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
You say that Deliveroo has shitty working conditions and I probably don't disagree (I know nothing of them), but I'm a second year university student and I'm being pressured to find a job by my parents while I'm here; Deliveroo seems like my best bet at the moment with flexible hours; I probably wouldn't be making any more than minimum wage elsewhere anyway. I hope that's some insight as to why it's attractive to som…
"Deliveroo seems like my best bet at the moment with flexible hours" "I probably wouldn't be making any more than minimum wage elsewhere" I wonder - and I'd be interested to hear your experience in this - how in-demand you end up becoming. Do your available hours coincide with other students, in which case, is your time mostly spent sitting around waiting, competing with a number of other people for a small number of…
They are now moving to a shift scheduling system which prevents too many riders being online competing for a low demand ("too many" being Deliveroo's definition, of course) and shifts that uncertainty to the riders, who have to log in at a specific time each week and try to book their desired shifts.
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#118All these new delivery startups remind me of Kozmo.com, which raised quite a bit of money from high-profile investors (including Fred Wilson and Amazon[1]) and even filed for an IPO in 2000. Kozmo.com described itself this way in its IPO filing: "We enable consumers to order a variety of entertainment, food and convenience products over the Internet for free delivery in under one hour. Our promise of under one hour d…
Given they promise free delivery within an hour, 24/7, with no minimum order value, I reckon they’ll be gone within 6 months or so.
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#119For those wondering about these numbers, Deliveroo has a great concept, solid execution and huge brand recognition. Just-eat (worth 4.6B) connects people to shitty takeaways and has a terrible website. Deliveroo connects people to restaurants and provides the delivery service themselves, through bikers (here in London). They have taken this and spread throughout Europe. They are going to (and are) completely canablis…
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#120I find it funny they're claiming some sort of AI system will help them make better margins. In my city, Nottingham. all the deliveroo people gather in Trinity Square waiting for jobs. There's obviously no special AI needed. I do think though that it raises the issue that they should be paying for their own business premises and stop using our public spaces as their company waiting spots.
Their logistics solution is just not as advanced as it can be. That's just common startup logic, the hardest problem will be solved with more money and good people and SV network has good people. They need combinatorial search and some travel time data, live re-search when new orders come in. For this to work well they need to predict new orders in advance, this means they need data on the spatial distributions of or…