French chef asks to be stripped of three Michelin stars

Post by msla » Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 3:29 PM UTC

kodfodrasz wrote: post #49

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> So what? Lots of people don't like xenophobia. > have the right to choose who to do business with? Ah here we go. Like the hoteliers who don't allow gay people to stay ?

> Lots of people don't like xenophobia. And lots of people don't like foreigners. > Like the hoteliers who don't allow gay people to stay ? Even that is OK in my opinion. The market will sort it out. There are clubs where gay people can have a good time. If gay accomodation becomes a niche market, there will be people seizing that opportunity. The law shall not discriminate people, but telling people what to think an…

Post by gknoy » Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 4:26 PM UTC

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>Is it xenophobic to suggest he might prefer to go back to the previous situation? This is totally a wrong interpretation of what I was saying. I was only commenting on that line in particular, not saying that what he was doing in general is bad, but the pernicious idea that only Japanese are qualified to judge Japanese food is something I find needlessly exclusive and overall false; this is what is xenophobic, not t…

> but the pernicious idea that only Japanese are qualified to judge Japanese food is something I find needlessly exclusive and overall false It's Japanese food for a reason. That's how Japanese see it and that's the taste they value. Once everybody start judging it, it's likely to change to match their tastes. Japanese food made to taste good for non-Japanese wouldn't be Japanese food anymore. Japanese-inspired? Yep.…

Post by mantas » Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 4:45 PM UTC

gknoy wrote: post #113

mantas wrote: post #108

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> but the pernicious idea that only Japanese are qualified to judge Japanese food is something I find needlessly exclusive and overall false It's Japanese food for a reason. That's how Japanese see it and that's the taste they value. Once everybody start judging it, it's likely to change to match their tastes. Japanese food made to taste good for non-Japanese wouldn't be Japanese food anymore. Japanese-inspired? Yep.…

If they feel that only their culture can appreciate the goodness of the food adequately, then _why do they care_ about what foreigners or Michelin judges say about it? Cook the same great food you normally do, and don't worry about the critics. (I know, easier said than done.)

Post by msla » Thu, Sep 21, 2017, 8:59 PM UTC

kodfodrasz wrote: post #114

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> And lots of people don't like foreigners. And that's morally wrong.

Its not. Hurting them is wrong. I also don't like junkies. Is that also wrong? Why do you tell me what i should like, and based on what ethics do you tell me what is morally right? What if I tell you that liking foreigners is morally wrong where I live? We don't hurt them, but we don't like them because they keep telling us what we should do, and keep trying to conquer us for a millennia? Still we live in peace since…

Post by Baeocystin » Fri, Sep 22, 2017, 12:25 AM UTC

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It's a much bigger deal for top-end restaurants than you might think. (To the detriment of the field, IMO. But I fully admit that is a debatable point.)

But if he's willing to lose all three of his stars, then surely the possibility of losing only one shouldn't be a big deal? Or does he wants to permanently have three stars without the possibility of losing them?