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I was ready to hate on this as just another Slack clone, but its unique features (actions and decisions) sound pretty great. Those combined with the Focus Mode sound like what Slack needs to have, to be honest.
* No feature parity
* No pre-built packages or support for configuration / infrastructure management - everything must be packaged completely from scratch, without recommended package specifications or Dockerfiles etc. to build off of. Nope - "here's a tar.gz. Have fun!"
* No proper enterprise support and no access to source code. We have a couple feature requests which are deep, burning desires which we'd love to either throw money or developers at but we can't because we have no relationship with Atlassian and we have no idea if Atlassian will ever address them because they don't publish product roadmaps.
* Essential enterprise products like Crowd and Bamboo get short shrift and make it clear that communication inside Atlassian is lacking.
Example: Bitbucket Data Center shipped with support to enforce GPG-signed commits. But because Crowd won't manage user GPG public keys, administrators can't revoke user keys without disabling access to Bitbucket entirely (so, GPG keys never get revoked), and Bamboo administrators can't enforce that project builds only use Bitbucket repositories with GPG-enforcement enabled, so for enterprises which actually need to enforce audit trails (for compliance, for building trust with deeply conservative customers...), the feature is worthless.
Another example: Bamboo supports elastic build agents... but only on AWS. No support for vSphere, OpenStack, or heck any other public clouds like GCE or Azure. No Dockerized build agents for build jobs which don't themselves need Docker.
Another example: Crowd is utterly lacking of any kind of investment. Sun Directory Server Enterprise Edition? Supported. OpenID Connect? 2FA? RSA SecurID? Yubikeys? lolnope. It finally got active-active clustering this year, though, so maybe that's a good sign?
It's too bad their suite is in a class of its own because for all its faults, it's in a class of its own. Everything else sucks, one way or another.
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Most IRC clients
Can you recommend an IRC client that works for non-technical folks that also works with api and webhooks capabilities?
I guess noone has built it because for techies, IRC is good enough, and there isn't a clear path to monetizing it?
Feature-wise, the "Actions and Decisions" tools sound pretty interesting. Definitely a pain point with Slack. We've been using Slack for a lot of our planning for the Longhorn PHP conference (https://www.longhornphp.com), and it's honestly not been great. Conversations & decisions about particular topics get buried; if someone wasn't present for a conversation, it's likely they'll never see it. I know Slack isn't a project management tool - we've been using a mix of Google Docs and Trello for that. But even as a communications tool it feels fragile and incomplete.
Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…
A common discussion I have with other developers. For a developer I'd say I'm a little more people minded than average, and a lot more big picture success oriented. And in both regards your personal productivity doesn't really matter. The biggest problem in software development is actually not per-coder-performance but that the right things get solved, and that the solution are actually good and quickly finished. Thi…
Not being available on-prem continues to show how poorly Atlassian treats its enterprise customers. * No feature parity * No pre-built packages or support for configuration / infrastructure management - everything must be packaged completely from scratch, without recommended package specifications or Dockerfiles etc. to build off of. Nope - "here's a tar.gz. Have fun!" * No proper enterprise support and no access to…
To be fair to Atlassian, they basically invented on-prem with SaaS-style pricing (and did us all a great service), and their biggest competitor here (Slack) isn't available on-prem either. Some of these features that you list in Crowd are ironically very similar to missing features in our products, but we're actively working on them -- while not losing focus on being the fastest and easiest key manager to stand up.
Running a software business can be challenging -- especially with a myriad of customer environments and feature requests. My feeling is that Atlassian got really big really fast and may have lost sight of their key differentiator -- which, to me, at the time, was pricing and simplicity. It looks like this new product might have brought back their flair on both counts.
Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…
A common discussion I have with other developers. For a developer I'd say I'm a little more people minded than average, and a lot more big picture success oriented. And in both regards your personal productivity doesn't really matter. The biggest problem in software development is actually not per-coder-performance but that the right things get solved, and that the solution are actually good and quickly finished. Thi…
Your insights good, it needs to be needed by managers and staff that the team is working as a team.
Now we have Slack, Discord, Gitter, Microsoft Teams, and Atlassian Stride. I'm not sure when chat rooms became a business tool. Personally, I find myself distracted more than anything from all the notifications these apps cause, I get less done. I have to be sure to quit every chat app and put my phone in "do not disturb" to disconnect and focus, and then I get coworkers mad that I'm not online. At least with email I…
Also, I'd take Slack convo over someone coming over to my desk to pull me into a whiteboarding session.
If this has an API, I'm fully onboard. The remote desktop control is something I've been patiently awaiting in Slack since they scooped up ScreenHero but they've done nothing with it.
:)