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Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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It can't happen here.

Not only can it happen here, but the founders of the country thought it would by the mid 1800s.

In effect, it did happen. A number of American citizens were prosecuted and convicted under the Federalist-supported Sedition Act of 1798, which included the following:

"And be it farther enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to stir up sedition within the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years."

https://www.ourdocuments.gov/doc.php?flash=false&doc=16&page...

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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Buried in the article is a key detail. >Prosecutors earlier this week scaled back their request and changed it to seek emails associated with Disruptj20.org and email addresses of third parties associated with the website, such as individuals who volunteered to help provide supplies or support to rioters. >As part of his ruling, Morin ordered prosecutors to tell him who was going to review the data DreamHost provides…

>Under Morin’s ruling, any information prosecutors find unrelated to the rioting would be sealed and could not be shared by prosecutors with anyone else or any other government authority. May as well be unsealed because of parallel construction.

If they want to do parallel construction they can already get the base information a handful of other ways that don't as directly open them up to the allegation of parallel construction.

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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The same reason the Go 1.9 changelog won't be discussed in political forums, opinions on USA's political landscape surely has a better home on the Internet than here.

Most sites are either echo chambers or fighting cages. The civility of Hacker News makes it a great place for not having shouting matches. Perhaps you know of other political sites with a HN-like community?

> The civility of Hacker News makes it a great place for not having shouting matches

Maybe, but maybe we'll lose this civility if we encourage this type of discussions.

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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I don't think people are acting as if it's a new threat, but rather alarmed that it's reached the levels it has. That is new , even if it has been ramping up a long time.

What stands out to me personally about this is that I'm 99% sure the administration could have silently achieved the same results through a FISA ordered warrant, but chose to go public in what I'm perceiving to be sending a message. The Obama administration also sent messages but they seem to have been ignored willingly or not. Remember when the intelligence services entered the offices of the free press in the U.K.…

> Remember when the intelligence services entered the offices of the free press in the U.K. and forced the destruction of computer equipment?

This was not under any direction from President Obama, this was GCHQ as most of the Snowden leaks were their documents.

Re: Judge orders tech company to release Web user data from anti-Trump website

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No. I think you are reading that incorrectly.

Okay, sure, care to edit your comment and explain how?

A bit late but...

There is nothing in the article saying that they are doing this on behalf of the president.

Nor that they are 'starting a register'. In fact it says 'any information prosecutors find unrelated to the rioting would be sealed and could not be shared by prosecutors with anyone else or any other government authority.'

And nor does it say that they are doing this to 'persons who hurt the feelings of the glorious leader', rather it says it is going after rioters 'left six police officers injured and caused tens of thousands of dollars in damage'.

So nothing you said could be have come from this article.

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