Which will be quickly converted back to Euro or Swiss Francs for them by their payment provider. I doubt they'll keep any of that bitcoin.
ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments
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#112I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…
I've tried it, but their solution is (IMHO) a very poor fit for a business e-mail account, as there is (or was when I used the service) no way to manage e-mail accounts for your employees and no way to archive / extract their e-mails in case of need (I understand that it's a privacy-focused e-mail service, but as an employer you have legal requirements to keep business documents for several years, and having to rely on your employees goodwill to get the data out of the system is not an acceptable solution for this). Also, there's no calendar integration (https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-feedback/sugg...), which again makes it difficult to use this as a business e-mail account.
I've switched to Mailbox.org in 2016 and I'm very happy with their product and service: Their system is based on an open-source solution (OpenExchange) so they don't need to reinvent the wheel and can focus on prodiving good hosting and service (which they do). They also have support for 2FA (including hardware tokens like Yubikeys) and recently revamped their management portal, which allows you to easily create and manage e-mail accounts for your employees.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not really. You can unlink all of your cryptocurrency transactions with Monero. This is sufficient for fiat too.
It is harder than that though. Monero has an issue in that everyone is only doing ringsize=3 transactions, providing little anonymity. If you buy from an exchange then turn around and sell it back, even with different amounts, you will be on a shortlist of suspects. To do Monero properly you need to wait a while (at least hours, better days) while churning to other addresses, being sure to keep your ringsize and fees…
I agree, by the time Monero becomes the default part of these discussions it will be a much more hardened network
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#114Which will be quickly converted back to Euro or Swiss Francs for them by their payment provider. I doubt they'll keep any of that bitcoin.
You never know, Overstock.com is now keeping 50% of their crypto payments in crypto.[1]
[1]: https://www.coindesk.com/ostk-hodl-overstock-keep-50-bitcoin...
Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments
#115I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…
I love proton and am a paid user, but I'm not sure if it has all the features a business needs. I'm personally waiting for a calendar before dumping google altogether (except for spam / email lists). Still, it seems better than anything else out there as far as privacy, though I would never count on email privacy to begin with for obvious reasons (unless I encrypt it myself / have others send encrypted email).
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#116now that we are talking about email. what is a good open source email server to use nowdays? or some free provider where i can use my own domain?
A good open source email server is https://mailinabox.email/ :)
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is harder than that though. Monero has an issue in that everyone is only doing ringsize=3 transactions, providing little anonymity. If you buy from an exchange then turn around and sell it back, even with different amounts, you will be on a shortlist of suspects. To do Monero properly you need to wait a while (at least hours, better days) while churning to other addresses, being sure to keep your ringsize and fees…
I could argue the merits of the ringsize but it would be moot because it's being bumped to 10 in September. So I will just leave this here as a note that the argument that a ringsize of 3 is not very anonymous will be moot in September for future readers.
Even with ringsize 10, it does not help if someone does BTC->XMR->BTC with the same exchange (or an exchange that shares records) without adding some XMR->XMR churn steps inbetween.
My future freedom depends on me getting this right, so I am a bit sensitive on this topic. It took me a while to cut through the fluff and figure out how to churn enough to make it safe. Fortunately I also used multiple Bitcoin mixers on both sides and didn't originally get our Bitcoin investment in a way that's directly linked to any of our identities.
It is somewhat irresponsible of Monero's marketing to make such grandiose privacy claims at the moment. I say this as someone that loves Monero and thinks their team is fantastic, and I'd bet Monero will be the privacy currency winner if it isn't already.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some of their software stack is open source. You can go have a look how it works for yourself, of course you have to trust that what they opened is what they run- but the foundations seem solid at least. https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient
How does an open source software stack stop employees from reading content?
When they receive an email, they encrypt it with your public key. The private key is stored on their server encrypted with a passphrase only you know.
Assuming they don't backdoor their client to find out your passphrase, or log emails as they receive them, you're fairly safe from having an employee browse through your emails.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some of their software stack is open source. You can go have a look how it works for yourself, of course you have to trust that what they opened is what they run- but the foundations seem solid at least. https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient
How does an open source software stack stop employees from reading content?
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#120Bitcoin is not anonymous.
Bitcoin is more anonymous than electronic banking.