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What frontend stack fits Elixir most symmetrically? Is there a "ClojureScript" to Elixir's "Clojure"?
Elm works very well with Elixir[0] [0] https://www.dailydrip.com/topics/elixirsips/drips/phoenix-an...
I highly recommend playing with Elixir or another purely functional language. I've only gone through the Programming Elixir book[1], but it has fundamentally challenged how I think about solving problems in other languages. [1]( https://pragprog.com/book/elixir13/programming-elixir-1-3 )
Beware, because it can make you hate your current day-job language
I think practitioners of functional languages get a little preachy when really, exposure to functional languages should just be assumed to be part of the basic training of any engineer. It's a tool and as good as it is for some things, it's absolutely awful for others.
What do people use as a PaaS provider for Erlang/Elixir?
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To be fair, if you're running Rails, any different choice of technology will yield huge performance improvements.
For an improvement of 2 orders of magnitude while maintaining the same level of developer complexity, I'm hard pressed to think of any other web framework besides Phoenix that can deliver this.
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If you are interested in learning a purely functional language, I'd recommend against picking a dynamically typed language like Elixir. Functional programming only starts to show its power with types and parametric polymorphism (higher kinds, etc...). Without type annotations, all you get is a watered down, crippled version of what a functional language can achieve.
Well first, Elixir isn't purely functional. It's got side effects all over the place, it just doesn't have mutable variables. Second... While I love static typing as much as the next guy, there's definitely value in immutable data in a dynamic language. You also get Dialyzer in Elixir/Erlang, which is an interesting alternative to the usual type systems you find in Haskell/Rust/etc. in that it focusses on finding pla…
Sure, but there's even more value in immutable data in a statically typed language, because of all the advantages that come with such a language (automated refactoring, better performances, tooling, etc...).
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You and blatyo are convincing me. :-) I really appreciate your openness in sharing these stats. I don't need to serve 2 million concurrent websockets. But I need to render HTML/JSON based on some database queries, under moderate traffic, and I'd like to get it under 200ms without trying so hard. I mostly agree with DHH that response time is dominated by database queries and Rails is "fast enough". Most problems you c…
The performance aspect also makes a huge difference in development. The application boots fast and the live reloading experience is rewarding. Having a 100 test cases that hit your endpoint+database running in less than a second is pure joy.
I highly recommend playing with Elixir or another purely functional language. I've only gone through the Programming Elixir book[1], but it has fundamentally challenged how I think about solving problems in other languages. [1]( https://pragprog.com/book/elixir13/programming-elixir-1-3 )
Beware, because it can make you hate your current day-job language
Is Elixir being used exclusively for web development? If not, what else are people using it for?
Can anyone doing Phoenix in production share their typical HTTP response times? I built a small Phoenix project about a year ago, and compared to Rails it wasn't quite as fluent but still pretty nice. But ever since then, I've been trying to decide if the extra development time is worth it for the performance gains. I get that Elixir is more scalable, and I love how the RAM requirements compared to Rails are tiny, bu…
For single a web api server Elixir is going to be far behind, performance wise, against nodejs, the JVM and Go. Their big feature is reliability/clustering but in the context of web requests, scaling them is real easy today, just use a load balancer. For me Erlang/Elixir have very specific niche use cases(at which it excels at) but its fans confuse beginners promoting it as a "general purpose language" that they shou…
To some Go web api frameworks perhaps.
To the JVM, not really. The frameworks I used with it in the past (spring/play/coupleOtherSmallOnes) are throttled to the number of threads for concurrent connections. The BEAM (Erlang/Elixir) has no such limitation and it blew away my old Java servers handily just due to its concurrency alone.
And not to nodejs at all. Running a single BEAM vs a single node there is no comparison, the BEAM runs circles around it. With nodejs you can shard it out to multiple running instances to get concurrency better but you run into OS limits far before the workload that the BEAM can handle.