Awesome technology; and todays SMBC [1] seems to be related.
Seeing AI for iOS
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My headphones are out of juice so you have settle for this summary: > Coincidentally, Russell Ivanovic is a case in point for what could happen if you defy Apple and launch on Android first. Ivanovic had initially been very lucky to have been assigned an Apple Developer Relations representative who gave him exclusive promotional opportunities. Few developers get assigned these representatives. Among the benefits Ivan…
Ah okay, so at most it's a withdrawal of special treatment, NOT punishing a regular app's position in the app store because they launched in the Android store first, which was how the original accusation sounded. But thanks for the info, I can see it certainly would stink to be treated that way, losing your benefits and being ignored by your contact.
These guys were on the featured list and showcased in apple commercials before they were suddenly dropped.
I am not sure if this is "withdrawal of special treatment". These guys made great ios apps, both before and after they started making Android apps.
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#113Ios as a platform is under constant controll by apple app store. Any reason, your app can be removed
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah okay, so at most it's a withdrawal of special treatment, NOT punishing a regular app's position in the app store because they launched in the Android store first, which was how the original accusation sounded. But thanks for the info, I can see it certainly would stink to be treated that way, losing your benefits and being ignored by your contact.
These guys were on the featured list and showcased in apple commercials before they were suddenly dropped. I am not sure if this is "withdrawal of special treatment". These guys made great ios apps, both before and after they started making Android apps.
The sections you quoted specifically mention special privileges (and that the Dev Rel representative thing is rare).
And it was those things which they lost right, rather than some kind of search position punishment?
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#115Yes, YES, this is what I'm talking about Microsoft. I'm surprised how muted the reaction is from HN here. On the technical side, this is a perfect example of how AI can be used effectively, and is a (very obvious in hindsight) application of the cutting edge in scene understanding and HCI. There are quite a few recent and advanced techniques rolled into one product here, and although I haven't tried it out yet it see…
I have a technical question here: Can this be called a true AI? Because as far as I'm concerned, most companies just use AI and ML interchangeably. I guess these are only applied AI tailored to do a plethora of tasks, but at the end of the day, they're not conscious and aware of their existence.
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#116The text recognition from documents is amazingly primitive. It doesn't use any type of spell checking to make a best guess at what a word is. It's straight text recognition.
On the other hand the "short text" feature works amazingly well to read text is sees from the camera. It's fast and accurate when reading text even at some non optimal angles.
How do you get it to try to recognize items that the camera sees?
Edit:
Oops. I guess it would help if I swiped right....
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Yep. The iPhone has close to 100% market share among visually impaired users, because the accessibility features are so far in advance of Android. Google have been playing catch-up for years, but they just don't have the obsessive single-minded focus on UI that Apple are famous/notorious for. When the iPhone originally launched, blindness charities were protesting that the touch screen interface would exclude visuall…
I agree that Google has not been focusing on accessibility at first, but what is missing from the last version of Android compared to iOS ?
A device that doesn't have to be replaced every 18 months since that's the only period of official upgrade support?
(Said as a former nexus 5 owner)
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Yep. The iPhone has close to 100% market share among visually impaired users, because the accessibility features are so far in advance of Android. Google have been playing catch-up for years, but they just don't have the obsessive single-minded focus on UI that Apple are famous/notorious for. When the iPhone originally launched, blindness charities were protesting that the touch screen interface would exclude visuall…
I agree that Google has not been focusing on accessibility at first, but what is missing from the last version of Android compared to iOS ?
At this stage it's a long list of small details rather than any specific feature. Apple place an extremely high value on UI consistency, which is disproportionately important for visually impaired users. Accessibility is an intrinsic part of their design culture, rather than something they retrofit on later. Subtle things like menu items being in a logical order make a really big difference when you rely on a screenreader. Apple also work far harder to promote and support accessibility for third-party developers. Accessibility is always a major focus at WWDC and is deeply woven into the Human Interface Guidelines. UIKit is highly accessible by default.
By way of metaphor: Visually impaired people need to be extremely neat and tidy, because they can't easily navigate a messy environment. If you don't put things back on the shelves in exactly the same place every time, you're in deep trouble. Google have a really poor track record of putting things in the same place every time.
For users with other accessibility needs, the size and consistency of the iOS ecosystem is often crucial. iOS gets all the good apps and peripherals first, because it's a much easier development target.
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Also on the technical side, the fact that Microsoft (Microsoft!) is releasing an iOS-only app, even if it comes from its research department, is maybe more shocking than its open-source releases of late. Who are you, Microsoft?!
It makes sense to start with iOS anyway, it's known for having great accessibility. A lot of people with accessibility needs use iOS for that reason.
In addition to the brilliant accessibility features, there's a limited set of devices running iOS, all with known camera specs and picture quality, which can definitely help in maintaining some consistency in results by reducing variation in input.
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#120This is amazing. I don't know if a lot of people here realize this, but it is really hard to pull off this level of integration of different computer vision components (believe me, I've tried). Microsoft has really outdone themselves this time.