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With `npm` and the current JavaScript culture, both a weekend project and the Linux kernel could have the same number of SLOC.
If people check in their node_modules, that's a good sign to stay away from the project.
Asking users to run mongo, es, neo4j, and redis is a tall order. Mattermost just needs (AFAIK) a relational database. Also, less relevant but the Gitlab UI has far too much wasted whitespace. Like 85% of the page is navigation. I like open source competitors to incumbents but maybe just copy Github here - no one is gonna say anything.
> Asking users to run mongo, es, neo4j, and redis is a tall order. Not really. Why? Reddit is opensource but it'd damn hard to setup correctly and start your own instance.
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Just because Reddit does it rather badly does not mean that other OSS projects shouldn't try to do better.
>Just because Reddit does it rather badly What about other OSS project? It's also not easy to make Linux from scratch. Being OSS doesn't mean it will be single click to run your instance.
And there's a difference between gratuitous (or almost gratuitous) dependencies and must have ones. From what I read in the other comments Neo4J doesn't feel like a must-have for this project.
Plus, to be honest, Mongo, Neo4J, Redis AND Elastic Search? That's got to be overkill :)
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I was talking about GitLab, not Gitter. Yes it's rude, but I want to love GitLab - it's amazing. However I just can't bring myself over with this UI. It's just too bad and too unintuitive. Also slow.
This type of feedback is almost completely useless for a project. "the worst", "too bad", and "unintuitive" are not actionable so if you really want to help a project then describe concrete issues.
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IRC is not going anywhere but projects like neovim use gitter primarily while IRC is linked using a bot. They view the IRC chat in gitter. Dunno if Gitter is better than IRC as I have only used for help and support (for me) but Gitter was far easier to use than IRC. Just Login and start chatting. I don't think IRC is going anywhere either... We just have alternatives to freenode now in Gitter
Does Gitter have federated servers using a standard protocol and a vast array of programmable extensions? None of these hosted solutions are even in the same league as IRC, and we are worse off for it.
While I applaud the initiative of Gitlab to opensource Gitter I think the target audience for self hosting is rather small. I think alternatives like Zulip or Mattermost are probably better suited for most organizations. I am however interested to see if the community starts making the "main instance" (gitter.im) better. Interested to know what the Gitlab / Gitter guys and gals think what the target audience is.
I'd much rather pay for a hosted FLOSS app, than a hosted closed source app (assuming similar capabilities). Being able to inspect the code, and knowing that anyone's free to collaborate or reuse the code really makes a difference on where I choose to put my money.
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IRC is not going anywhere but projects like neovim use gitter primarily while IRC is linked using a bot. They view the IRC chat in gitter. Dunno if Gitter is better than IRC as I have only used for help and support (for me) but Gitter was far easier to use than IRC. Just Login and start chatting. I don't think IRC is going anywhere either... We just have alternatives to freenode now in Gitter
Does Gitter have federated servers using a standard protocol and a vast array of programmable extensions? None of these hosted solutions are even in the same league as IRC, and we are worse off for it.
I've really enjoyed Gitter as a better means of communications when I have questions that are small enough to not need their own issue, yet also not worth it to ask on SO or some other platform. It has been nice to be able to have a nice way to talk with other open-source collaborators or get quick clarification on a small repo-specific question. It's cool to see how it was put together. Thanks for open sourcing this…
I've really enjoyed Gitter as a better means of communications when I have questions that are small enough to not need their own issue, yet also not worth it to ask on SO or some other platform. It has been nice to be able to have a nice way to talk with other open-source collaborators or get quick clarification on a small repo-specific question. It's cool to see how it was put together. Thanks for open sourcing this…
The biggest problem I have with something like this is that unlike SO the answers aren't archived for others who may have the same issue. It would be nice if discussions like this on Gitter could be archived and searched the way mailing lists are.
https://gitter.im/gitterHQ/gitter/archives/all https://gitter.im/gitterHQ/gitter/archives/2017/06/14
I agree that chat isn't as digestible as SO, but it is definitely archived.
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Does Gitter have federated servers using a standard protocol and a vast array of programmable extensions? None of these hosted solutions are even in the same league as IRC, and we are worse off for it.
IRC isn't federated either, FWIW.