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Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by yeukhon »

jjoonathan wrote: post #96
ericflo wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought you were being unimaginably rude until I went to the page and saw that there were actual dogs listed.

Wow. For a platform that struggles with security, listing a security team entirely composed of dogs comes across as the equivalent of "I drive better drunk!". One has to wonder whether it was intended as a joke or as a dismissal, and in both cases it evidences an alarming attitude towards a very serious problem. EDIT: If there were humans on that team in addition to the dogs, I'd not be nearly so upset.

Well professionally I'd like a human photo. If this were a shy photo, I would hope for not a cute puppy photo, but a human animated icon. There is a bit I called professional prsentation vs being cute, but this is a startup and it's someone else's company.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by Shelnutt2 »

kalleboo wrote: post #95
jbg_ wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you mean by "support"? Do they really get to tell you that you can't use a device even though it supports the standard their network uses? (I'm clueless of how things work with these carriers.)

AFAIK, Sprint and Verizon still require you to register your phone's serial number to access the legacy CDMA network (or have they finally implemented RUIM?). A SIM card should be fine for their LTE network though.

Verizon used RUIM, but it still has to be registered. Sprint is still using NV based authentication.

Both carriers are more focused on getting to VoLTE than improving the CDMA process at this point.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by erpellan »

whisdol wrote: post #36

They seem to avoid mentioning the version of Android they are running - the specs only say "Android". I'd like to be exited about this, but this uncertainty combined with the fact that their security personnel is a team of dogs[1] makes it quite hard for me. [1] https://www.essential.com/about

Android 7.1.1

https://support.essential.com/hc/en-us/articles/115008012428...

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by raesene6 »

jjoonathan wrote: post #108
raesene6 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure we're differing that much. My point was that the titanium shell they're providing doesn't (to me) remove the need for a case as they're saying it does. Any drop which damages the glass of a phone is a problem. A phone with a cracked screen is at the very least damaged and potentially entirely unusuable. My point was that they're addressing something which isn't the weak point in the system. Aluminium might s…

My point was that by addressing the corner problem they are addressing the glass problem because glass breaks primarily due to poorly diffused corner impacts, not face impacts.

Ahh I see, interesting theory, but I guess I'd want to see some drop tests of the full phone before I was convinced to have a phone with no case.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by rmah »

maufl wrote: post #69

"My software engineers wanted me to talk about our vision for making all devices, even those we don't make ourselves, play well together." This sounds really interesting to me, but I can't find anymore information about what that means. Does anybody know?

It doesn't mean anything. It's marketing tripe.

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by fauigerzigerk »

nerdponx wrote: post #107
raesene6 wrote: post #39

I like the idea of tougher phones, but to me it misses the mark to talk about the titanium phone case surviving corner drop tests, it's the glass that's the problem. The number of people I've seen wandering around with cracked phone screens from drops is quite high, and is the reason I put a case which covers the front on every phone I buy. So having no phone case here just means you get the usual after market screen…

For what it's worth, my Rhino Shield "crash guard" case [0] has saved several iPhones from multiple waist-high drops onto concrete. Shock transfer into the screen simply does not seem to be an issue. It doesn't cover the front, it just extends a few mm in front of the screen to prevent "flat front" impact. It's still susceptible to smashing the screen on a corner, but how often does someone really drop their phone sc…

>[...] my Rhino Shield "crash guard" case [0] has saved several iPhones [...]

How do you know that?

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by joatmon-snoo »

Jdam wrote: post #43

> Your phone is your personal property. It’s a public expression of who you are and what you stand for. Just no. It's just a tool that I use to communicate.

> Just no. It's just a tool that I use to communicate.

And your treatment of your smartphone as such is a public expression of who you are and what you stand for ;)

Re: Essential Products – Andy Rubin’s new hardware company

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Post by arkitaip »

raverbashing wrote: post #53
mstade wrote: post #30

This is the first paragraph that shows up when seeing the site in mobile safari: > I know people are going to ask me a lot of questions about why I started this company. Why didn’t I just travel the world, ride my motorcycle, tinker with my robots, hang out at my bakery with friends and family. And to be honest I still do ask myself that sometimes…but not too often. 1. Maybe I'm not geeky enough, but I don't know who…

And that's absolutely fine, the site wasn't built for you It filled its purpose of filtering those that are further on the adoption curve away

Of course you got downvoted for telling the truth. Essential seems to be in pre-launch and Rubin is one helluva competitive advantage who early adopters will know about.
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