Jacque Fresco has died • Hacker News Board

Re: Jacque Fresco has died

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Post by atlih » Tue, May 30, 2017, 12:46 AM UTC

JackFr wrote: post #19

xenu101 wrote: post #10

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People are interested, they're just not interested in working towards it or giving up things for it. Fresco paints a gloomy picture of the now and the future, but the facts are that "on average", humans are living better lives than they ever have. This progress has not yet stopped. Hence, Fresco predicts we need to wait for the next "bust".

It's not just "on average", people are materially better off today than at any other period in history, at all levels . The poorest people today are better off than the poorest people at any previous era.

You do realize that your argument also works flawlessly for Kim Jong-un in North Korea, right?

Re: Jacque Fresco has died

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Post by wu-ikkyu » Wed, May 31, 2017, 4:11 PM UTC

pixl97 wrote: post #95

wu-ikkyu wrote: post #93

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>There are fewer people (as a percentage) starving There are more people (in real numbers) starving than ever before. Looking at this in terms of percentages is misleading

>Looking at this in terms of percentages is misleading Um, per capita is the important metric. If there are 2 million people on your planet and 1 million of them are starving, then in a few generations there 100 million people and 2 million of them are starving you have drastically reduced the rate of starvation . Malthusian predictions of the past have said that the rate of starvation/bad things happening would incr…

>Um, per capita is the important metric.

The true number of starving people is not an important metric?

Re: Jacque Fresco has died

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Post by Shorel » Thu, Jun 01, 2017, 6:08 PM UTC

swalsh wrote: post #15

I think as a whole his vision is little too "non organic". I don't think society can be planned to the degree he wished. However disassembled there were some solid ideas, many of which are becoming realities today. He represents one of my favorite parts of the 50's and 60's. Which struck me as a time where people imagined that it was totally possible to just upend society, and rebuild it in a better way. The level of…

I wish we knew how the Inca empire worked.

By the few remaining accounts we have, it worked just as Fresco described. But too many details were destroyed by the Spaniards.