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Lessons from last week’s cyberattack

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Re: Lessons from last week’s cyberattack

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The quote bombshell here, and what hasnt yet gotten much attention since sysadmins the world over are busy dealing with fallout, is that the NSA and therefore the US government is directly responsible for the current global cyber-carnage. We developed the capability, we chose to keep it unpatched, we tried to keep it secret, we lost control of it. This has similarities in type, if not in horror, to the development an…

Complete BS. This is what happens when you have top class PR at your disposal to define the narrative. Microsoft is responsible for their shit software getting exploited first and foremost. Seriously fine Microsoft and by day after tomorrow that 3500 security engineer number will jump to something realistic. Instead what will happen is more tightening of the walled garden, overcharging of support/security contracts a…

All software has flaws. It's how we respond to them that matters.

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Re: Lessons from last week’s cyberattack

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Complete BS. This is what happens when you have top class PR at your disposal to define the narrative. Microsoft is responsible for their shit software getting exploited first and foremost. Seriously fine Microsoft and by day after tomorrow that 3500 security engineer number will jump to something realistic. Instead what will happen is more tightening of the walled garden, overcharging of support/security contracts a…

> Instead what will happen is more tightening of the walled garden You know what? I'm starting to get excited for the walled garden to get more walls. Native desktop applications get far too many permissions by default - its crazy that any desktop application, once running can register itself at startup, see all my files (created by any application), register system-wide keyloggers, take screenshots of other applicat…

That's fine and dandy - I'm all for it, in fact, I configure my systems thus with 3rd party tools as much as I can. Android is mostly like this (with a less than perfect implementation)

But when people talk of "walled gardens", they mostly refer to the guardian at the entrance. Only Apple decides what runs on iOS, only Microsoft decides whats in the App Shop. That's NOT good for anyone (except Apple and Microsoft).

Sure, make users jump through hoops to install alternate stores, and warn them up the wazoo when they do that. But do let them, or general purpose computing as we know it is gone.

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Were people not updating to more modern OSes because they didn't want new features or because they didn't want to spend the money on new licenses and testing software compatibility? And how sure are we that they didn't install security updates out of sheer laziness or hubris? People who run systems that store sensitive information and systems should take computer seriously more serious than the people on Hacker News.…

Critical systems should not have installed an operating system that collects metadata on virtually anything the user does: telemetry. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/micro... (Privacy) Especially if the company that develops the os in question shows a track like this one: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=microsoft+w... . (Security) I also wonder how long it will take before the…

I'm not advocating for using Windows for critical systems that store tons of user data, but I am advocating that if you do use it, you should use versions that are still supported and make sure you patch it ASAP.

But should Microsoft be expected to back port patches to old OSes in perpetuity?

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Critical systems should not have installed an operating system that collects metadata on virtually anything the user does: telemetry. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/micro... (Privacy) Especially if the company that develops the os in question shows a track like this one: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=microsoft+w... . (Security) I also wonder how long it will take before the…

> Critical systems should not have installed an operating system that collects metadata on virtually anything the user does Thing is, the more of that data they have, the more likely they are to prioritise testing those use cases. So it's a trade-off - do you want telemetry, or do you want a higher risk of bugs - you have to pick one.

Just to mention two alternative ways to get data: bug reports, product feedbacks. You can ask for logs, system diagnostics, backtraces... One may have less data, but probably of a superior quality.

Outsmarting sysadmins, developers and users is not the first need.

If one is not gathering enough data because many are not able to find the tools and/or the website for the reports, that's a usability issue and that is what should be solved.

I seriously think telemetry is the wrong solution for the matter.

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Complete BS. This is what happens when you have top class PR at your disposal to define the narrative. Microsoft is responsible for their shit software getting exploited first and foremost. Seriously fine Microsoft and by day after tomorrow that 3500 security engineer number will jump to something realistic. Instead what will happen is more tightening of the walled garden, overcharging of support/security contracts a…

Uh, except Microsoft had already patched the vulnerability, just not for XP that was still being run. Of course you can punish them and force them to support all legacy OSes forever, until that strangles the life out of them at which point large institutions still have to run the old OS because they have too much investment in computer controlled hardware with no forward migration. Now they are locked into an insecur…

This is why free software is necessary.

Proprietary software makes you rely on a company to fix everything. It's like driving a car without being able to replace a flat tire.

Re: Lessons from last week’s cyberattack

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One thing that strikes me with this malware is that it hits pretty much every single country. Don't hackers try to follow the proverbial "don't shit where you eat" proverb? They have nowhere to hide if they are identified now.

I don't know anything special that leads to this conclusion, but let's pretend that Russia is not only shadowbrokers(and I don't know that) but that this ransomware was also released by Russian government(I really don't know that...)?

In that thought experiment, what could be the possible reason for attacking themselves so hard? Well, to give themselves more plausible deniability(and the whole attack would be done as an attempt to discredit the NSA)... but also to justify an agenda of technological sovereignty. Russia is in a tug of war with American corporations over where data is stored and they've even blocked the Microsoft owned linkdin. It's impossible to find an alternative to Windows(considering Russia is such a big PC gaming country), but who knows in 10-15 years.

Re: Lessons from last week’s cyberattack

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One of the reasons why such attack was possible is poor security in Windows. Port 445 that was used in an attack is opened by a kernel driver (at least that is what netstat says on WinXP) that runs in ring 0. This driver is enabled by default even if the user doesn't need SMB server and it cannot be easily disabled. Most of services in Windows are run under two privileged user accounts (LocalService or NetworkService…

> Oh, and by the way Linux has similar problems.

Yes, but as free software, it inherently has better solutions.

Using a proprietary operating system is like driving a car only the manufacturer is allowed to fix. You don't get to fix the flat tire, and when the manufacturer drops support, you have to buy a new car. If you don't, these situations leave you stranded.

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