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On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by Cyph0n »

Inconel wrote: post #109
Cyph0n wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a huge fan of Al Jazeera for some issues in the Middle East, but I think the best all-round news source for the region is Middle East Eye[1]. Their journalists have a no holds barred approach to sensitive topics in the region. [1]: http://www.middleeasteye.net/

I've never heard of Middle East Eye, but I'm always looking out for more sources of news so thanks for the link. Do you happen to have any specific articles handy, or general topics, that you feel they covered better than other news sources?

Their best coverage is on topics related to the Gulf states. In particular, the arrests of human rights activists [1], the inner workings of the Gulf monarchies [2,3,4,5], and other similar topics which are rarely if ever covered by other news agencies, let alone state news agencies in the Gulf.

I've only linked a sample of articles I could remember off the top of my head. Their archive has many more articles on similar topics.

[1]: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uae-jails-academic-10-year...

[2]: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-yemeni-president...

[3]: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/revealed-senior-uae-royal-...

[4]: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/revealed-uae-backed-plan-y...

[5]: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/uae-eyes-military-expansio...

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by epmaybe »

Cyph0n wrote: post #101
voodooranger wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure that the mouthpiece of the ruling family of Qatar is a reputable source for anything, much less any topic involving Israel.

You might be able to say that about AJ Arabic, but AJ English is an entirely different entity. You'd actually be surprised how much autonomy AJ English is given in its reporting. Also, you could say AJ's reporting on Israel is biased, but why do you dismiss everything else? AJ has some of the best journalists in the world and continually pushes the barrier in its reporting worldwide.

Until you just referred to them as AJ, I had no idea that they were the same as Al Jazeera. I saw videos on YouTube by AJ and just figured they were some other entity.

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by wbl »

paulmd wrote: post #10

Israel's been doing this for a long time. Try inviting pro-Palestinian activists to campus and see what happens. At the end of the day, everyone has the right to protest, whether that's Black Lives Matter or the Westboro Baptist Church or any other group. Always distressing to see it used to further what I see as oppression but there's not really a whole lot to be done about it. You get your opinions and I get mine.…

Nothing. I was involved in hosting a debate between two Palestinians about one state vs two state and nothing happened.

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by Cyph0n »

epmaybe wrote: post #112
Cyph0n wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be able to say that about AJ Arabic, but AJ English is an entirely different entity. You'd actually be surprised how much autonomy AJ English is given in its reporting. Also, you could say AJ's reporting on Israel is biased, but why do you dismiss everything else? AJ has some of the best journalists in the world and continually pushes the barrier in its reporting worldwide.

Until you just referred to them as AJ, I had no idea that they were the same as Al Jazeera. I saw videos on YouTube by AJ and just figured they were some other entity.

Ah yes, I believe that's their US branch. IIRC, the AJ America news channel didn't do so well, so they pivoted to an online-only presence and rebranded to AJ+.

You'd be amazed how many branches Al Jazeera has worldwide. Heck, they even have AJ Balkans[1]!

[1]: http://balkans.aljazeera.net/

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by echaozh »

rubatuga wrote: post #77
trendia wrote: post #63

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If the left tries to block the right, and the right blocks the left, the Chinese the anti-Chinese..... soon nobody will be allowed to speak.

Lmfao, and then we become a perfect society where nobody talks, seems quite pleasant to me /s

At least you the blocking is of the people, by the people and for the people. Rather than by a dictator. So much better.

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by akhilcacharya »

mistermann wrote: post #91
unityByFreedom wrote: post #72

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> If leftist students can block Ann Coulter from speaking then why can't Chinese students block the Dalai Lama? Students actually don't have a right to forcibly block speakers. That's a common misconception of free speech. If you want to see examples of how real free speech is upheld, check out cases on thefire.org [1]. It's a law firm that specializes in tackling free speech issues on college campuses. However, they…

It isn't a legal right, it is a de facto right. Generally speaking, only left leaning speakers are allowed on campuses. Generally speaking, only pro-immigration speech is allowed in polite company. This story, at least to me, also illustrates Chinese immigrants aren't interested in immigrating to other countries because they like the culture, way of life, etc and are choosing them as a new home to raise their familie…

>Generally speaking, only pro-immigration speech is allowed in polite company.

Anti-immigration speech was very far outside of the Overton window until very recently - a development I find incredibly concerning.

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by echaozh »

dragonwriter wrote: post #56
erikpukinskis wrote: post #47

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I'm not sure what you're implying when you say it's "interesting". If you have a problem with the equation of anti-Tibet political intervention by China and anti-Palestine intervention by Israel then state your case.

> If you have a problem with the equation of anti-Tibet political intervention by China and anti-Palestine intervention by Israel then state your case. As much as Israel has colonized parts of Palestine by way of settlements, its nothing like the Chinese annexation and colonization of Tibet.

What about the white annexation and colonization of America?

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by [deleted] »

Cyph0n wrote: post #111
Inconel wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never heard of Middle East Eye, but I'm always looking out for more sources of news so thanks for the link. Do you happen to have any specific articles handy, or general topics, that you feel they covered better than other news sources?

Their best coverage is on topics related to the Gulf states. In particular, the arrests of human rights activists [1], the inner workings of the Gulf monarchies [2,3,4,5], and other similar topics which are rarely if ever covered by other news agencies, let alone state news agencies in the Gulf. I've only linked a sample of articles I could remember off the top of my head. Their archive has many more articles on simi…

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Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by nol13 »

blackguardx wrote: post #107
maverick_iceman wrote: post #55

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Try inviting pro-Israel supporters and see what a stink BDS and the general leftist students make. [1] [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/students-are-shoutin...

Pro-Israel in what sense? Believing that Israel shouldn't exist is an extreme opinion that isn't widely shared in the western world. The debate is about a homeland for Palestinians.

Believing that Palestinians shouldn't have a homeland with safety and rights is an extreme opinion not widely shared in Pro-Israel world, they just aren't delusional about the security implications.

Re: On Campuses Far From China, Still Under Beijing’s Watchful Eye

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Post by sctb »

it_learnses wrote: post #8
ganfortran wrote: post #6

TIL that pro China talk is against freedom of speech, how ironic.

did you even read the article? You're probably a Chinese shill too.

We've already asked you not to do this. We ban accounts that continue on, so please stop.
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