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Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by Arcsech »

TylerJewell wrote: post #81
toddmorey wrote: post #42

I wonder if there's a name for this: that impatience and discomfort you feel about anything new until you understand what it is exactly and what to compare it to. Until that question is answered, you have ZERO patience for any marketing you read: especially fluffy visionary commentary about "digital transformation". You are quite literally making your readers angry because you are not answering their questions. For a…

Hi @toddmorey - I am founder / CEO of Codenvy. Eclipse Che is our open source kernel and we had the opportunity to collaborate intimately with Red Hat's engineering teams in the design and development of OpenShift.io. Let me share some of the perspective that we have on what they are building. What happens if your app dev lifecycle tools (git, issue management, IDE, CI / pipeline) runs on the same platform that is ru…

Whoever is in charge of openshift.io really ought to just delete their landing page and paste this post in its place. This is a thousand times more helpful than the meaningless buzzword soup that's there right now.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by baijum »

btbytes wrote: post #18
maxandersen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

disclaimer: I work on openshift.io, and there will be much more coming out as summit goes on so I can't refer to more than in current news: From https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-unvei... Team Collaboration Agile Planning Developer Workspace Management Application Coding and Testing Runtime Stack Analysis Continuous Integration and Delivery thus it is more than "just" an online IDE in the traditi…

I have an OpenShift account and now I'm shown an "additional action needed" page on login. When i complete it and hit submit, it tells me that email already exists. Not at all pleasant :(

This issue has been fixed in upstream. https://issues.jboss.org/browse/RHDENG-1320 Please try it again after some time.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by w4tson »

inputcoffee wrote: post #105
toddmorey wrote: post #42

I wonder if there's a name for this: that impatience and discomfort you feel about anything new until you understand what it is exactly and what to compare it to. Until that question is answered, you have ZERO patience for any marketing you read: especially fluffy visionary commentary about "digital transformation". You are quite literally making your readers angry because you are not answering their questions. For a…

You seem like one of those guys who simply can't appreciate a vertically integrated, synergistic solution that delivers on the promise of strategic technical innovation with seamless delivery.

:D

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by smcnally »

baijum wrote: post #61
op00to wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2. Show photos, video, or screenshots. You'll literally be able to demo it yourself for free, on demand, in production (IF YOU DARE!), within the next few days.

There is video link in this blog post: https://developers.redhat.com/blog/2017/05/02/announcing-red...

That video adresses a bunch of the issues noted. It briefly shows provisioning, the editor, deployment, issue tracking in action, and the narrator overviews the vision & reasoning. It should be touted more prominently.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by sbose78 »

bdavisx wrote: post #27
maxandersen wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

disclaimer: I work on openshift.io, and there will be much more coming out as summit goes on so I can't refer to more than in current news: From https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/red-hat-unvei... Team Collaboration Agile Planning Developer Workspace Management Application Coding and Testing Runtime Stack Analysis Continuous Integration and Delivery thus it is more than "just" an online IDE in the traditi…

So if a company chooses openshift.io, then I'm not going to be able to use IntelliJ, NetBeans, emacs, vim, visual studio code, etc. That'll help attract talent.

You can use any IDE and also use every other component of OpenShift.IO ( like planner, build, pipelines )

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by noja »

thanksgiving wrote: post #108
noja wrote: post #73

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Then it's a bug right? The uniqueness check should be based on the part before the + sign.

No, I don't think what google does is standard behavior (not trying to say anything bad about Google; I love Google). However, as far as I know, disallowing + is not a particularly good way of preventing abuse. I won't go as far as to say it semms like bad code but it is pretty close. I think it is OK to make a special case for Gmail and Google mail but it is counterproductive to try to crown it as a de facto standar…

huh? Google's special behaviour is that they are blind to dots in the user part of the address.

The + sign is not anything to do with Google.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by eriknstr »

Why do I need to provide my e-mail and create a password when I choose to sign in with GitHub? First of all they were supposed to be able to retrieve the e-mail address from GitHub I think, like they did with name and company. Creating a password should not have been needed at all.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by shimon_e »

alisjdhfiowu wrote: post #69
toddmorey wrote: post #42

I wonder if there's a name for this: that impatience and discomfort you feel about anything new until you understand what it is exactly and what to compare it to. Until that question is answered, you have ZERO patience for any marketing you read: especially fluffy visionary commentary about "digital transformation". You are quite literally making your readers angry because you are not answering their questions. For a…

And the "Learn more" link for every single tile and bullet point on the home page. How can someone in their right mind think "Lets scatter the information on the home page into 20 links so the user can click on them one by one and handle the navigation themselves"

It's what happens when you write your content for search engines instead of humans.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by harrymower »

I run the group at Red Hat responsible for OpenShift.io and our developer program. We really value the feedback and the comments on this thread. I admit, we could have done a much better job explaining the product on the site.

Based on everyone’s feedback, we redid the homepage last night. We hope this does a better job explaining the benefits and why you would want to try OpenShift.io. Please give it a look and let us know how we did.

I know there are a lot of people who want to give OSIO a try. We will be onboarding customers as soon as we can. We are putting in the finishing touches and ramping our capacity to meet the demand. We will be keeping everyone updated on our progress through email, twitter (@rhdevelopers) and our developer blog - https://developers.redhat.com/blog

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

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Post by op00to »

bdavisx wrote: post #70
op00to wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Proof for your statement? This sounds like juicy, paranoia-mongering FUD.

Sorry, I didn't mean it to come off as a statement. It says that there's an online IDE, so it was a question; I unfortunately used a '.' to end the first sentence because I had an 'etc.' at the end. It's seriously a question; and if the answer is yes, then the following statement applies (the one about attracting talent). But yes, it came off pretty cynical and sarcastic, but if someone is going to try to force me to…

If it works anything like OpenShift 3's on premise product, and I see nothing that says it doesn't, you can use whatever IDE you want, but the deeper you get into customization, the less "special sauce" you'll get. Maybe clippy won't pop up and say "hey, it looks like you're trying to use an out of date library!" if you're editing in vi and checking in with git or whatever.
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