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A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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You can never morally justify war against civilians, sorry.

Civilians are responsible for their governments. Alas, this is a hard truth that many civilians do not wish to be reminded about.

>> You can never morally justify war against civilians, sorry.

> Civilians are responsible for their governments.

So the attack on the WTC was justified in your opinion?

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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I don't fully understand that this comment is downvoted. He has a point there. We are all being tracked, just see your history [1] on the google website. It tracks the websites you've visited, the video's you've watched, music I've played, things I've searched, App's I've used (Camera for example), directions I've searched (google maps), ads I've seen, cards in my feed (google now), my location history (actually very…

Keep in mind that you're comparing an oppressive regime with... android. The open source phone operating system. And you think this is a sensible comparison?

It's a comparison worth thinking about, either way.

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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post #78

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> Are you saying ISIS should also be left alone and America not try to stop them? As someone who isn't from America (and actually was born in a country which was subsequently bombed by America during peace time) I've never understood this idea that America is somehow justified in the belief that they are the moral arbiters of the world. Who put you in charge? If the answer involves "we have a big military" it's inter…

Nanjing. Unit 731. Korean comfort women, Korean cultural genocide. How do you propose we win a war against people like that? It took not one, but TWO atomic bombs to force a surrender. Tokyo was prepared to fight to the last person. The only way to win that war was to bomb them into oblivion. That was a choice the Japanese made. The Japanese military engaged in unimaginable atrocities and despite being nearly annihil…

>The Japanese has plenty of opportunities to surrender but they kept fighting and fighting and fighting.

It's odd how this is portrayed as a negative aspect of Japan's militarism, when the Allies were fighting the same war with the same attitude.

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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These people are insane. > And if North Korea ever does change, if the Kim family were overthrown or were to voluntarily loosen its chokehold on information, a U.S. apology for the bombing could help dispel 65 years of hate. Consider the response of white americans in the US after the Imperial Japanese bombed a military force in Pearl Harbor, with almost zero civilian casualties. It quickly became common sentiment in…

But what if they hadn't? Japan was invading most of Asia with mass killings along the lines of ISIS and the Nazis. Are you saying ISIS should also be left alone and America not try to stop them? Japanese civilians at the time weren't really innocent. The whole country was working for the war effort, mainly to kill other Asian people.

Are you saying ISIS should also be left alone and America not try to stop them

Absolutely yes, I'll say that. ISIS was created by the US bumbling about in Iraq, just like al Queda before it was created by the US intriguing in Afghanistan. But I don't expect the US will ever learn that bombs are the clumsiest of tools for shaping human history.

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This is a terrifying manifestation of what technology makes trivially possible. This device: * Logs every app and web page that you open. * Keeps forensics on shared files based on hashes, to track networks of like-minded dissidents or individuals sharing similar files. * Refuses to open any files which are not signed by either the government, or the device which created the file. (e.g. photos can be viewed only on t…

That doesn't read much different from a security/DRM feature list of the latest Apple, Google or Microsoft operating systems. I'm sure the North Korean government also only has the best of intentions for the safety of their people ;)

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

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So, basically Android? Except, you don't get shot in the back. With Android, it automatically syncs Contacts and photos to the "Cloud", unless you disable it. But, you cannot do it 100%, because it's turn on by default when you first sign in. Also, it's not a secret that Google logs your locations history.

Not sure why you single out Android since most "modern" commercial OS send data home in order to develop predictions about it's user. In the western world, it's called assistance. Android/Google at least give you a hint and some control over what kind of information is being collected.

I think it's because android is supposed to be open, so it's supposed to do this the least.

Re: A Closer Look at North Korea’s Ullim Tablet

#118

This is a terrifying manifestation of what technology makes trivially possible. This device: * Logs every app and web page that you open. * Keeps forensics on shared files based on hashes, to track networks of like-minded dissidents or individuals sharing similar files. * Refuses to open any files which are not signed by either the government, or the device which created the file. (e.g. photos can be viewed only on t…

That doesn't read much different from a security/DRM feature list of the latest Apple, Google or Microsoft operating systems. I'm sure the North Korean government also only has the best of intentions for the safety of their people ;)

And content creators.
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